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Location: western pa.
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What caliber for black bear?

donna, once again congrads on your bear. a well placed shot with a slingshot would probably work on a black bear. i would suggest a 30. cal. or better. my personal choice would be a 30.06.

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Location: New Jersey
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What caliber for black bear?

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What caliber for black bear?

My personal opinion is a well placed shot no matter what you are using will take them down. I shot 373 pound boar with a 20 guage Remington 870 express Magnum, used Brenneke 2 3/4 Mag load slug. I have raised many eyebrows with this. What dropped my bear? a perfect lung shot, (both lungs) and knowing the guns limitations. Slug went through left side behind the shoulder through the lungs and through the shoulderblade and stopped just under his hide. (still have the slug!)
Donna

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Location: northeast tn
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What caliber for black bear?

i've seen bear shot with everything from a 243 to a 338 win mag anything 270or better should do you just fine the 270 with good trophy bonded bullets will do fine. i've personally killed a few with a 30-30.

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What caliber for black bear?

270 is an excelent choice for black bear I would worry more about bullet placement and selection. Pick a bullet that will retain its weight like a nosler partition, swift A frame, Trophy bonded Bear Claw, etc,,, And you are good to go.
I dont know were all you 30 cal junkies get off thinking .03 of an inch gets you so far ahead. I have seen a 120lbs bear shot with a 30-378 mag Bad shot placement live all night. Evil!

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Location: Alberta
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What caliber for black bear?
Ferguson wrote:
I hit a pretty good bear at 79 steps. It weighed approximately 300#. I hit it just a little high. It turned and bit itself where the bullet entered as it fell over in the bank. All I could find was a tuff of hair where it pulled out its hair biting at the sting. I swore off the light bullets at that point. We searched till dark and half the day the next day. Not a speck of blood. That was a 270 loaded as hot as I could load it. This past spring I shot a 180 gr 30 cal bullet out of a 300 weatherby mag and got good penetration. The bear never went 15 yards. I've seen 4 bear shot with 30 cal bullets and all fell within 30 steps of where they were shot. I agree that a smaller bullet will kill a bear but,,,,,,is it fair to the bear? Why take a chance? You need an exit wound so the bear will bleed out. It's hair is so thick that the blood won't run out enough to track. It'll soak it up. If you have a good exit hole it will bleed out and you can track it better. Why take a chance? Especially in thick or steep cover. You don't want to bear to travel after the shot. Take the magnum and be fair to the game.

What grain bullet was it? For bears, moose etc the .270 is fine as long as you use the 150gr (or larger) bullets. A .270 cal. 160gr Nosler Part would be excellent on bears, moose, elk...

Also the idea of loading any bullet to super high velocity is going to cause trouble if you hit an animal at close range, unless you are shooting premium bullets like a Barnes X or a Swift A-Frame, it's liable to blow up.

Shot placement is obviously important and it sounds like you must have missed the lungs. If your bullet only passed through shoulder muscle, I am sure your bear survived. They have enormous strength and recuperative abilities.

As far as the bears that dropped to the .300 mag with one shot, I bet they were just hit better. Do not think you can take a large caliber and kill animals with one shot, with marginal hits!

"Magnum" calibers do not kill any deader then your standard .30-30, .303, .270., .30-06, .308 etc...

I'm using a Marlin 1895 .45-70 with 400 gr Speer FN bullets, loaded to 1800 fps, myself. It is certainly no "magnum", but I bet it will flatten a black bear! Wink

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Location: Alberta
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Re: What caliber for black bear
brketo wrote:
I have Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in 45-70 cal, shoting Garrett Ammo in 420 gr zeroede in at 50 yards Average feet persecond is 1822 at targeVery happy with it,[/b]

Is that Garrett ammo factory ammo or handloads with Garrett bullets? Aren't Garrett bullets hard cast?

Btw, that is one smokin' load!!

My 400gr Speer handload (or the 405gr Remington) is 54.7grs H-4895 with CCI large rifle primers, Remington brass. When I was building this load, I max'd out at 56.5grs H-4895 and those were 1930fps MV, but I thought that was excessive... wait, I knew that was excessive!!
The 54.7 gr load I am using shoots real nice. Just yesterday, I fired 6 rounds into 1-1/2" with that load. Avg. is 1800 fps MV.

Wow!! I'm trying to imagine those 420 grainers at 1820 fps...

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Location: Olympia, WA
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What caliber for black bear?

I say it would all depend on how far you want to track him. If you will be hunting close to the thick and nasties, unless you want to go following a bear in to that crap, I would opt for the 300 ultra mag.

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Location: Montana
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What caliber for black bear?

7mmRem Mag with a 150 gr nosler partition,punch him right in the shoulder,problem solved.

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