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Location: Missouri
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What caliber for black bear?

You use the word "if"
Life is not always perfect. The man said he had a 270 and a 300 ultra mag. Now "if" he hunted in a stand and "if" he made a good shot and "if" his gun is lined up and "if" if" so on and so on, the smaller gun would work. There has been more deer killed with a 22 LR than any other gun (poaching). The bad part about it is the game has been wasted when it ran off and died. I shot a good bear with a 270 and never found it. That was not fair to the bear or me. The shot was a little high. It was not the guns fault it was mine. I had drug a 300 lb bear 2.25 miles on a sled that morning. I had just walked another 3 miles. I was tired and weak from hunting and taking care of game. I was excited when I found this bear. I couldn't hold the gun still for the life of me. I waited for it seems minutes watching and calming down to make a good shot. When I pulled the trigger the bullet hit high. My gun was a pre 64 mod 70 winchester in a 270 that shoots 3/4 inch groups. It was lined up 1 1/2 inches high at 100 yards and shoots 3 inches high at 200. I guarantee this poor shot was not the guns fault. The bear was hit high in the lungs with no exit wound. The cover was thick dark timber in NW Montana. So steep a person had to hang on to brush to stand up. The bear never bled after he rolled over the gated road bank I was hunting. It tore up the rock slide for 200 yards down the mountain side before getting on normal pine duff. We spent 8 hrs with 3 men looking for the bear.
The man said he had a 300 ultra mag already available. Everything in life don't always work as planned. Why take a chance and for what reason? If he can afford a bear hunt then he can afford the higher priced ammo. Why wouldn't he be fair to the game he is attempting to take?
I know you can kill a grizzly with a 22, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,why would you try?

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What caliber for black bear?

I shot my bear this year with my 7mag and was using 165 gr. I had a clean pass threw and from where he started to where he ran to he had not a drop of blood on the ground. The only blood there was when he finally died on the ground. Bears are light skinned but they have heart and they run from the banging of the gun. But when stuck with 400+ grs of an arrow they run off as stung by a bee if the shot is placed threw both lungs. So it all depends who is talking here.
A good hit is lethal. I shoot till they are down. Thats my philosophy. Each person has there stories of hunts so to argue over who right and wrong then they where not in the situations others have been in. But to give advice is where we are right now. I do not plan on losing a bear or any animal.

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We'll boys finally i took mine down tonight finally got one of the big girls eating at my site 310 with no guts pretty good half decent bear and as i said one shot with the 303 did it i'll post pics tommorrow.

Location: Minnesota,
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What caliber for black bear?

so a rock would work ? lol I use 30.06 180gr for every thing. I tried a .270 in Mt. for whitetail I mamed a lot of deer before they died. that sucked. Then moved up to 30.06 ( that is my favorite gun) Haven't had to shoot twice
Bears may have thin skin but they have big bones especialy shoulder

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yep for sure i love 30.06's they are very nice guns im gonna buy one soon i think but i still love my .303

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Location: Michigan
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What caliber for black bear?

It's all about shot placement. If you don't hit them right, they run. I've shot numerous deer and black bear with a .270 Win and all, except one, dropped before going 5 steps. The one was my fault as the buck was 225 yards and moving fast towards a cornfield. I hit just behind the ribcage (didn't lead him) and into the corn he went. I found him in there within 50 yards but still alive. I was young and learned a valuable lesson about humane kills. Don't shoot unless you have a good shot and not in haste, even if it means letting the animal go. Proper placement and knowing your limits as a shooter is the key.

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you got that one right on the money man id say that for sure i let 4 go this year because i new it wasnt worth takin the shot

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Location: International Falls, Minnesota
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What caliber for black bear

I have Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in 45-70 cal, shoting Garrett Ammo in 420 gr zeroede in at 50 yards Average feet persecond is 1822 at targeVery happy with it,[/b]

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Good stuff

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Location: New Jersey
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What caliber for black bear?
BigE wrote:
I've used 30.06 & 7mm mag.
Friends have used . 308, 30/30, & 270. It all works well with a well placed shot...

I have to say I agree with you on a well placed shot. My slug went through the left side behind shoulder through both lungs and through the right shoulder and stopped just under the hide. I was in a stand over bait and that is how I got my 373lb boar! Shot him with a 20 guage Remington 870 express Magnum, used Brenneke 2 3/4 Mag load slug. Surprised quite a few people in Maine with that one. (Especially that I am a female!)

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