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What bullet do you like to use on elk?

Around this area there is quite a variety. I see hunters using:

Barnes X
Failsafe
Bear Claw
Partition
Grand Slam

Myself I've been partial to Partitions and Bear Claws. With an interest in the new Accubonds.

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Partions and various sierra (game kings, etc) bullets.

Frankly I don't understand the whole "quality bullet construction" debate. Maybe someone can enlighten me. I read/hear people say stuff like "I want a bullet that blows throw shoulder on a quartering too shot, but doesn't go clean through on a broad side shot".

HELLO? At equal distance/energy this is a contradictory statement. Unless there is some strange material out there yet to be conceived, I don't see how it is possible to get both charateristics in one grand-boo-pah bullet. One shot type requires a harder bullet, the other a softer. You get one or the other, not both. That is of course until we get smart rifles and smart bullets!

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If you run across anyone that has a bullet that can perform that well, let me know. I'll buy a box. Hell, I'll take a case. I'd only hope they're in the right caliber. That would certainly be the best of both worlds.

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What bullet do you like to use on elk?

I've used a variety of bullets in the past but my rifle like partitions so I've settled into those. Thinking about trying the accubonds though. I shoot a 7mm mag and not sure what grains they offer yet but if they sell the bullets in say 165 gr I think I'll try some handloads and see how they shoot. Anyone tried the accubonds yet?

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I have yet to use any of the accubonds on game. From what I've read and been told by a tech at Nosler. They perform every bit as well as the partitions.

I've shot the 140gr .277's and the 200gr .308's. Both shot beyond my expectations. Target quality.

I know they make a 160gr .284" with a BC of .531. The 160gr partition has a BC of .475.

I heard that someone is going to start loading factory rounds with the Accubonds.

I going to try some of the 180gr .308's. They'll probably perform better than the 200's out of my 300 wsm.

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Federal is now loading accubonds, not sure if anyone else is yet. Pretty pricey too.

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It's good that a factory round is being produced. That tells me that they are getting good results with the tests and good reports from hunters. I think I'll pick up a few more boxes before the price starts going up.

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fuzzybear wrote:
If you run across anyone that has a bullet that can perform that well, let me know. I'll buy a box.

Will do, I'll get my patent app in tomorrow. Wink

Any way, just for the sake of discussion, what does "quality bullet" mean to you folks? Used to be that quality just meant a copper jacket, but when folks talk about quality these days, I'm not sure what they mean.

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bitmasher wrote:

Any way, just for the sake of discussion, what does "quality bullet" mean to you folks? Used to be that quality just meant a copper jacket, but when folks talk about quality these days, I'm not sure what they mean.

To me I pay attention to how it performs. Take a ballistic tip for example. It seems the plastic tipped bullets are not made for elk. If they hit bone, notice I didn't just say shoulder, they seem to "blow up" a lot. When they blow up that means little penetration and you might as well take your shotgun loaded with your favorite pheasant load. This of course is a worst case scenario.

Otherwise non-quality bullets (like the BT) usually expand too quickly leaving a smaller, shallower wound channel. A quality bullet to me retains as much of its original weight and drives through the animal instead of coming apart and only a small portion of the bullet goes through the animal.

A quality bullet pentrates heavy bone, skin and muscle much more reliably than a non quality bullet.

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Good point Bitmasher

I would think a quality bullet would be a bullet that performed the way it was intended to. There are a large variety of bullet constructions available and each construction type are designed with a specific purposes in mind. There are light jacketed that disintegrate on impact to solids that retain 95 - 100% weight for deep penetration or pass through.

I have used the phrase. Premium quality bullet. I should have worded it. Premium construction bullet.

If I picked a bullet that was intended to disintegrate on impact, used it for large heavy game and it bounced off. If I didn't know any better, I could say the bullet was not a "Quality" bullet. The fact of the matter is I used a bullet for a purpose it was not intended for.

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Ok, so lets take this a bit further, and this is just kicking the can around on my part. Do you prefer your bullets to pass through the elk or remain internal, from a killing effectiveness perspective?

When I say, no pass through, I mean like you take a quartering away shot, the bullet goes through the vitals and mushrooms up on the opposite shoulder (or rib cage).

The reason I ask this is simple. If the bullet remains in the animal, it "dumps" all its energy, if it passes through a significant amount of the energy is not dumped.

For instance people like to quote 1500 ft*lb of energy as necessary to kill an elk, but you are really only delivering this energy if and only if:

1.) the bullet arrives just before impact w/ 1500 ft*lb energy
2.) the bullet does not exit

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