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Broadheads

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There are some awesome, amazing, and VERY knowledgable people on this sight and I would share a hunting camp with probably every single one of you guys and gals, BUT there are way to many people reading articles, magazines, and watching these hunting shows and believing everything these people do and say. I for one have learned thru many wonderful years of experience.

As far as a new hunter asking a question and steering them in the correct way is a wonderful thing, BUT I have been killing  (LOTS of) elk over my short 27 year hunting carreer. I here about these amazing elk that are so strong that unless you have these SUPER .30 caliber plus magnums and 140 grain broadheads and a 500+ grain arrow these SUPER elk will not go down ESPECIALLY if you make a POOR SHOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Archery is all about shot placement.

Now that I have gotten that out and calmed down you all must have learned even in a simple hunters safety course that arrows kill by cutting. I have never needed a super heavy arrow to shoot thru an elk and I have shot almost every arrow made since the mid 80's. I have shot long ways thru an elk with the 1980's flutted alluminum shaft and a 125 grain Thunderhead and they were extremely light while only shooting 63 pounds at 230" per second. People have been killing all types of animals all over the world with long bows and recurves long before people were coming up with kenetic energy and weight of arrows and broadheads.

I am sorry guys about the rant, but this cuts me to the bone. I have been shooting expandables for years now and have not had a problem bringing down an elk.

Good luck on your decision and make sure whatever you decide that you can put that arrow where it needs to go.

Quinton

  I would have to agree with Quiton, But in reality,  there's so much to learn and know about elk hunting before you even have to worry about a broadhead!!!!!!!

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Shot Placement pretty much

Shot Placement pretty much sums it up here, but i might add if your hunting in kansas you might not be prarticing out very far. You might want to start stooting out to 80yds so you can be able to make a pinpoint shot at 60yds kneeling on the groung.

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shot placement

As you guys have said already…. Shot placement… Shot placement…. Shot placement…

I have killed 5 elk in the last 4 years.  I killed 4 of them with expandable broadheads.  The first two with a 125 grain Vortex and the last two with a 3 blade 100 grain Rage.  I was very impressed with the performance of the rage.  If you shoot an elk in the right spot they are going down.  The two elk shot with the rage went down in less than 50 yards combined.   I also learned from experience, it doesn’t matter what kind of broadhead you use when you hit the leg bone of a big bull.  I have wounded two bulls, one with a fix blade and one with an expandable.  Both broadheads only got about 3 to 4 inches of penetration from a bow shooting a 405 grain arrow at over 305fps.  As Quinton stated, hunters have been taking down elk with a stick and string for over a hundred years. 

I will continue to shoot expandable broadheads, like the 3 blade rage or blood runners,  at elk until they come up with something better.  They are both able to destroy an elk rib on entry and exit on a broadside shot. 

As for the rage opening up in the quiver… it’s something I’m willing to deal with because of their devastating effect on animals. 

 

Conrad  

 

 

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thanks for that reply i may

thanks for that reply i may try the rage this september and i know i need to find the right grain of arrow for the hunt any sugestion on that would be apricated. I do know the right shot placement will take down any animal but the right brodhead will seal the deal to

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Slick Trick magnums....100

Slick Trick magnums....100 graon....lethal!!

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where it's legal

I have put arrows through several elk and even a larger animal, but have never had the luxury of trying an expandable.  Here in Washington state, they are illegal to use.  Don't ask me why??  But with that said, I am a believer in a bit heavier arrow weight for larger animals.  I had a complete pass-through with a 700+ grain arrow with fixed blades on a 1500 pound bull buffalo.  I don't think that would have happened with the 425 grain arrows I use on deer.  BUT, as has been said before, it's all about shot placement.  The type of broadhead and the weight of arrow are irrelevant with poor shot placement.

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where it's legal

I have put arrows through several elk and even a larger animal, but have never had the luxury of trying an expandable.  Here in Washington state, they are illegal to use.  Don't ask me why??  But with that said, I am a believer in a bit heavier arrow weight for larger animals.  I had a complete pass-through with a 700+ grain arrow with fixed blades on a 1500 pound bull buffalo.  I don't think that would have happened with the 425 grain arrows I use on deer.  BUT, as has been said before, it's all about shot placement.  The type of broadhead and the weight of arrow are irrelevant with poor shot placement.

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To all you archery hunters

I have shared my nephews first bull on here before, but I have been looking for this pic since this thread started. As I said before he was 14 years old shooting a 40# compound bow with a 26 1/2" carbon shaft and a 125 grain broadhead and shot the bull at 35 yards. As you can see he did not get a pass thru, but he took out both lungs on this mature bull, and the bull did not go 65 yards. The bull was 7 1/2 years old and has 13 inch bases.

So to all you guys and gals out there shoot what works best in your bow and get out there and enjoy the hunt ! Thumbs up

Quinton

 

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I think thats what I would

I think thats what I would call Check-mate,

nice going elkill06

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Personally, i will never use

Personally, i will never use mechanicals. They are just another part that has moving parts and moving pieces are much more likely to fail than things w/ fixed parts. I shoot the trophy taker shuttle t lock and have no complaints. It requires no adjustments when going from field tips to the broadheads and they have a nice cutting diameter w/ great penetration. A friend of mine who owns an archery pro shop, shot a cow elk at thirty yards through both shoulders(not behind the shoulders) and the arrow passed completely through, dropping the elk. However, using the best boadhead will not make up for a bad shot which is why you should practice year round and never shoot outside your comfort zone.

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