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No idea on catnip.

No idea on catnip.

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finally got a plan coming together...may go out next sunday

I talked with a buddy of mine that said the way to go on this thing is to (kinda what you said) think like a cougar.  I am gonna camp in that hollow for about four days starting may 5th till the 10th if I get my shipment in.  

I have decided to try several things.  i can't find an outfit that would rent dogs for that because there is no real hunting of the animals.  The Arkansas game and fish said they/I could take the animal since it killed a horse that was valued at around 10k.  Anyhow, I thought what I'd do is to go in to that hollow and I'll go ahead and tell you at the risk of sounding crazy.  

Tonight I pulled the trigger and bought about 32 oz of pure catnip off www.amazon.com for about 42 dollars and some change.  I bought a few yellow bananas that has catnip in them to hang from trees.  Well see how curious he is in the next few days.

I asked about the killings and they ARE happening about every 2 weeks.  These dates should put me in that window.  And the owner of the horse has agreed to reimburse me for any and all costs associated with this as long as i get the cat.  I bought a lawn chair too that i have had my eye on for a while now.  

Now, I'll start by locating some tracks like you said.  Then the catnip.  A little here.  A little there....getting stronger all the time.  leading the cat down into the holler.  A "valley of Catnip."  Catnip on all trees and rubs and in the banana toys that hang from the trees too.  So he'll think ..."something for my trouble."  

If my hypothesis is correct and all cats respond favorable to this then he'll get out there and get to rolling and sunbathing in that catnip....battin' those bananas around with his paws and I will be perched up where I should be able to get a clean shot at him.  

I also have a buddy that grows chicken for Tyson here in Arkansas and he has agreed to hold a few dead ones back for me so I got that workin in my favor as well.  Food and catnip. 

Now if he comes in around dusk I'll consider trying a laser light as well.  See if he has that in common with smaller cats.  I haven't seen a cat yet that can turn one of those down.  

Hopefully ONE of these will help to bring him down where I can get a shot at him.  It would be simpler if I could get some dogs but the truth is I am no spring chicken myself and i got a bad knee so i probly couldn't trail them if I had them without a four wheeler or a mule.  

What i do have is time and patients.  I am still working on the gun situation and will check back in later.  If you think any of this will hurt my chances please chime in.  I admit i am reaching but without the capability to getting dogs to the Natural state I don't have a better plan as of now.  

Question to whoever "traps" them.  What do you use to bait them with?

Jack Blasingame, II  

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Sounds like you have a pretty good plan. I hope when you say you'll be perched up you mean in a tree stand. If your on the ground you better have a good blind that can cover your movement that's how cats hunt if your seen moving your toast. They don't smell like bears so bait isn't that affective. The few that I have caught have been in bobcat traps. The same principles apply. For bobcats I hang what looks like a rabbit pelt from a tree, the wind blows it creating movement. The Cats see that and come in to check it out. Mountain lions should do something similiar. I would go with something deer colored instead of rabbit and hang it from a tree near the trail and your catnip. Let us know how it goes. Sounds like your in for a good test of patience. Better take some books to read. Pray it comes in during the day. Did the pets/stock kills happen in the day or night? my guess is night. Also, have you thought of trapping or snaring him? Is it illegal in that state? You'll have a better chance of trapping him or snaring him then you ever will trying to shoot him and you only have to check your traps every few days. I would check with your fish and game on this. If it's a problem cat they might let you do it. I'll tell you right now it's not a needle in a haystack if you try trapping. That being said if you have never trapped it will still be tough. But if you talk to any local bobcat traps they can give good advice they may want to trap it for you if money is involved.

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Yes!  How did you know they

Yes!  How did you know they occured at night?!  The pets were all let out.....not a sound......gone...found half eat the next day in the valley.  

 

i do have access to some night vision binoculars.  i have also went to a local pet shp and got the biggest cat type toys i could find.  just a gamble ...may work....may not.  those with the catnip filled bananas that i got online may bring him in for a look.  

 

if it does get around dusk ill probly give the laser light a try one night.   if it aint dusty he probly wont see where it is coming from.

 

 

now as far as the shootin goes i am probly one of the best around here but since you say they may be hard to hit i am considering taking my 20 guage and letting him settle in to play with a catnip banana and then WHAM! 

 

I'll pepper him real good and see if i can get a blood trail.  I do have a dog that can  track.  

 

When you say id be toast on the ground you mean hell run away not hunt me right? its so he dont know im there...that is why i need to be in a tree...no natural predators/threats in a tree right?

 

÷thank you

 

jack blasingame

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When I said toast I mean he will see you and then avoid you or spook, I doubt he will hunt you. They are like ghosts. If he finds out where you are he'll avoid you, go around you and you won't even know it until you see tracks later. Don't use a 20 gauge. 12 or 10 guage would be better. I still recommend a rifle you would use for deer. I wouldn't want to be tracking him after you hit him. You want him to drop dead in his tracks. Now that I know he is coming in at night which is when they do most of their hunting, your odds got worst. You didn't say anything about trapping him. Is that not an option? otherwise your getting back to a needle and a haystack scenario. If you're really just trying to get the money for him it's still your best bet. A trapp will work 24-7 and increase your odds from 100 to 1, to probably around 5 to 1 if you can get some traps and advice from a local bobcat trapper. You can probably watch some videos on youtube to help with setting the trap as well. You put out about 4 or 5 sets you'll nail that bastard. It's still your best chance. Let me know how it goes.

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well I am down to trappin now for sure

Dang the luck.  I have had to contact a local trapper (bobcats and feral hogs) and he has given me a few ideas.  I have had a run of luck.

1.  The order came from Amazon for this weekend and the catnip bag was busted open or was opend by someone.  I spilled all of it in my flower bed and now my flower bed is filling up with cat hair and cat piss.  14-20 cats out there from everwhere at any given moment for the first few days.  There is still 5-6.  Don't EVER let a man tell you that catnip is a hoax!

2.  I got a bad knee to begin with. Last week I had a part time thing lined up and it fell thru, and I just bought a used scooter to beat the gas and now the payments are coming due....so I started doing the only thing I have ever been good at.  Refereeing.  Midget basketball.  There is a basketball league here for little people (dwarves or midgets or whatever we are supposed to call them...gotta be under 4ft. 8 or 5ft 2....) and I am 57 almost so I can still make it up and down the floor to ref some of those games.  A couple of those guys are really good and quick.  But I'd be fast if i could play in that leage.  And tall.  At 5'7" I am a head taller than most of them, I'd be like Shaq (and am when i was younger and we played the pickup games)  but that didn't stop me from tearing up my knee last weekend.  

So the "hunt" is off andthe "trap" is on.  Wish me luck.  He is due back any time.  I don't have a deer skin but I do have an animal rug of some sort that I can borry from my Uncle Carl.  I'll hang that and see.

Jack Blasingame, II 

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don't make the rug to big. you want it to blow in the wind. also hang it back in the tree a little. You want to narrow his path into it. I always cut big branches and brush and laid them to the left and right sides of the set. Narrow two paths in to check out the rug. One narrow path in and one narrow path out. In that narrow path you'll place your trap not right infront of the flag/rug. You should have two traps a set. One for each path I just mentioned. Use sticks to guide their steps into the trap. You don't have to bary it but you want the pan of the trap to look like a good place for a cat to step. They are very particular about where they step so make it look inviting by making the area immediately around the trap look unviting with sticks. You want him to step over the sticks right into your trap. Make sure you have the trap anchored to a good tree with strong cable/or chains or really heavy wire. Put the Kat/nip you have left at the base of the tree and like I said narrow it down so nothing is getting to that katnip or rug unless it goes through your trap. Block any other way for them to get to it with branches ecc... If you have enough traps try to make 3 or 4 of these sets in areas you think he's traveling. Within 10 to 15 yards from his walking path is good. If there are bobcat in the area, you'll probably catch them to and if the lion finds them before you do he'll rip them to pieces. good luck.

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What part of Arkansas are you

What part of Arkansas are you in?

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This has got to be, hands down, one of the best threads I've read on any forum!

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LOL. Welcome to the site wooduckman1. Why is this one of the best threads you've seen?

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