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Well 20 shells.....you should kill 20 ducks now!

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ChesterGolf wrote:
The rule of thumb for hevi-shot is to shoot 2 shot sizes smaller than you would normally use. I use #4 for everything and never feel under-gunned even when the big canadas come in.

My thoughts exactly.

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Since HEVI·SHOT pellets are 10% heavier than lead and have 25% more energy at 50 yards than steel pellets have at 30 yards, I purchased 5 or 6 boxes of #2 and #4 shot for waterfowel.

It's amazing that Remington is getting 1,450 fps out 12 gauge 3" shells with 1 1/4-oz's of Tungsten-Nickel Iron Alloy.

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My daughter was a winner in the local big buck contest ... her prize = $50 worth of ammo. Since her caliber wasn't available in the manufacturer the prize is in - she let me get some heavy shot with her winnings. Let's see what happens.

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Okay, the only stuff available was 1 oz high velocity tungsten heavy stuff. The ducks came out wrong from the pond so the shooting was awkward ... first shot hit a greenhead, but not hard, gun jammed, greenhead spiraled down out of sight, watched the rest of the ducks come out, forced another shell in, got a greenhead on second shot, but not hard, found him. Then went and patterned the stuff against cardboard. Pattern at 30 yd seemed rather weak (for density) - but I'm not surprised with only 1 oz of shot. Gun will undergo a thorough cleaning, and tomorrow I will go out and see if I can find the first bird. And, or course, any replacement ducks that come into the pond overnight ... 8)

Question: would the high velocity stuff have a greater tendency to jam? ... I shoot an 870, which is a good gun, although this particular one has not been without some abnormalities. The gun is chambered 2-3/4 in. and mod barrel. I know, I need a waterfowl gun - but this is all I got for now.

Tomorrow I have some heavier loads coming (1-3/8 oz) via fedex ... looking forward to belching out more `particles' at these northern mallards.

Duck hunting is definitely addictive, ... like the rest of hunting...

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Thats a good all around gun you have there Thumbs up

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Weigh in on this one ...

I was disassembling my 870 after a quick hunt this afternoon, and, behold, my magnetic sight had 2 beads (see pic). Actually, there was a steel #4 shot stuck to the sight. SCARY!!! Are the ducks shooting back?

Possible explanations:

1) some kind of ricochet?
2) the wad sent something back my way?
3) a shot rolled out of one of the ducks I shot and got sucked onto the magnetic sight?
4) other????

My thoughts ...

1. One time I was hit in the forehead by a fragment of ACP 45 slug hitting a metal swing target and flying straight back. Interesting experience being shot - but did not penetrate (as I'm here to tell about it). But where I was hunting today was pure mud and water, so no ricochets or bounce back possible.
2. I don't know enough about how these wads send the shot out to answer the second possibility ... but in the tons of shooting I've done - this would be a first.
3. The stalk was a good one and I hammered both ducks at point blank range. About half of the drake looked like a sponge. The only explanation I can think of was that the shot rolled out of the duck which was in my jacket pocket (with holes) and onto the sight - both of which where near one another in the back of my jeep.

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My guess would be that the shot came out of the ducks feathers. I have seen large amounts of shot rain out of these ducks before.

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i tryed to use #4 shot out of my gun and i couldnt drop anything.i went threw a hole box then i switched to bb shot and thats when i started to drop them. when it gets colder out you should switch to a bigger shot because the ducks have a more fat on them during colder weather.

i would have to agree with chestergolf that the shot fell out of the ducks feathers.

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For the above reason, I switched to number 2 shot in steel a long time ago - Kent Fasteel 3" magnums with 1 1/4-oz of shot.

Plan on trying out Remington's Hevi-Shot number 4's or 6's in the near future. The box says the 3" magnum 1 1/4-oz load goes 1,450 fps.

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