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Location: Eatonville, Wa
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washington muzzleloaders.

I am thinking about giving muzzleloading a try with next season. Ill have a new job that will allow me to enjoy the longer season so I am looking find a decent rifle for the money. I can always upgrade later so what would be some good options for me. Heres the washington regs on muzzleloaders to help narrow the selection down:
[quote]2. Muzzleloaders
(a) It is illegal to carry or possess any
firearm during muzzleloading seasons
which does not meet the following
specification for muzzleloader: Is
loaded from the muzzle and uses
black powder or a black powder substitute
as recommended by the manufacturer
for use in muzzleloading
firearms. Has a single or double barrel
of at least 20 inches, rifled or
smoothbore. Ignition is to be wheellock,
match-lock, flintlock, or percussion
using original style percussion
caps that fit on the nipple and are
exposed to the elements. Shot shell
and 209 primers are not legal. Sights
must be open, peep, or of other open
sight design. Telescopic sights or
sights containing glass are prohibited.
Except hunters with disabilities
who meet the definition of being
visually impaired in WAC 232-12-
828 may receive a special use permit
that would allow the use of
scopes or other visual aids. Contact
the Department’s ADA coordinator
for further information. Fiber optic
sights are legal. It is unlawful to have
any electrical device or equipment
attached to a muzzleloading firearm
while hunting.
(b) A muzzleloading firearm used for
deer must fire a single, non-jacketed
lead projectile of nominal 40 caliber or
larger except that buckshot size #1 or
larger, may be used in a smoothbore
of 60 caliber or larger. Lead bullets
with polymer tips are legal.
(c) A muzzleloading firearm used for
all other big game must fire a single,
non-jacketed lead projectile of
nominal 50 caliber or larger, or fire a
single, non-jacketed lead projectile of
at least 170 grains. Lead bullets with
polymer tips are legal.
(d) Muzzleloader hunters can carry a
handgun designed to be charged with
black powder only. It is NOT legal for
hunting or dispatching big game.
(e) Muzzleloader hunters may lawfully
hunt game birds with a muzzleloader
shotgun.
(f) Only one barrel of a double barrel
muzzleloader may be loaded with
powder or bullet or capped at any one
time while hunting in a muzzleloading
season. Muzzle-loaders hunting in a
firearm restriction area, outside of a
muzzleloader season, may have both
barrels charged.
(g) In-line Muzzleloader: In-line
muzzleloaders are legal only if
ignition uses original style percussion
caps that fit on the nipple.

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Location: Summit, IL
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washington muzzleloaders.

that last rule is a little bit contradictory dont you think CVA? Most all inlines caps are sealed from the elements nowadays. Other than that, the best side lock I had was a Hawkin .50 cal. Shot great rarely ever missfired (but I was anal about cleaning) And killed a lot of deer. But like many I got caught up in the rush of inlines and now have a TC Pro Hunter .50 cal. TC also makes a fantastic sidelock percussion as well but they aint on the elcheapo side. But you will get very good performance out of it. Well worth the extra money in my opinion. Never owned one but know several that do and they love them.

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Sad to hear how restrictive Washington is with regarding black powder season. I don't use an inline, but I wouldn't want to restrict a shooter from participating in the season due to their prefrence in firearm selection.

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Location: Summit, IL
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Pa is even MORE restrictive French. In the regular muzzleloading season you have to use a flintlock. But they also have another season for ML that you can use anything.

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Location: Bavaria, Germany
Joined: 10/06/2007
Posts: 274
washington muzzleloaders.

Hello from Germany!

I'm always wondering how detailed the rules in the USA are sometimes. For me there is no sence in rules about inline or not and how a cap has to be located. Here in Germany we have some general prohibitions concerning to caliber or system and nothing else.

Regards

Kirrmeister

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In NH the rule is .40 caliber or greater, and you can have a single barrel pistol of .40 cal or greater. ML season is about a week and a half before general firearm.

Cam, I think that is neat about the two seasons. I guess that would really work out if you shot a flintlock too.

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csumerall, take a look at Traditions web site. I've never shot one, but they have a Tennesse .50 caliber that looks like a pretty sturdy hunting gun.

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Location: Summit, IL
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Yeah the early ML season is nice (doe only) you can use inlines then. All bets off, scopes whatever just as long as it muzzle loads. For the regular ML season they just a few years ago started allowing conicals. And fiber optics but its FL only.

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Location: Eatonville, Wa
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Its funny you mention that gun It happens to be the gun that I was thinking about when I started this thread

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If you do buy it let us know how it works out for you. Another really good choice would be a Lyman Great Plains. They seem like a very heafty rifle, and I hear alot of good things about them. I am partially stuck on the full stock idea though, which is why I like the Tennesse. It's a short carbine, but the under barrel is completely covered. I have a TC White Mountain carbine. It's a nice piece, but I don't care for loading it. I'm six feet tall, and the rifle barely comes up to my waste. Ideal brush gun, but for loading I would prefer to have something a little taller. You might want to think about that as well.

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thanks I'll check them out

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