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Deer dogs

Thank goodness deer (dogs) season is over. The locals have decided to stand up and fight and are tired of their dog "RIGHTS" being threatened. It was an 'in-your-face' season again. Instaed of showing some respect for those of us who challenge our quarry 1 on 1, they made sure to run dogs all over us every day. Why do we buy hunting licenses??????????????????

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Thank You for your comments and opinions but there is many methods of hunting. You choose to do it still hunting and I appreciate that but many choose to do it another way. God Bless and Happy Hunting.

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Re: Deer dogs
gittrdone wrote:
Thank goodness deer (dogs) season is over. The locals have decided to stand up and fight and are tired of their dog "RIGHTS" being threatened. It was an 'in-your-face' season again. Instaed of showing some respect for those of us who challenge our quarry 1 on 1, they made sure to run dogs all over us every day. Why do we buy hunting licenses??????????????????

I didn't buy one this year, and probably won't next year, either. I must say that, as a whole, this year wasn't nearly as bad as some. They did dog this place for one week straight(week of Thanksgiving). And we had quite a few pass-throughs after that, but by then the deer had quit moving during huntable hours, anyway(wonder why?).... eye roll

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Re: Deer dogs
tesoronut wrote:
gittrdone wrote:
Thank goodness deer (dogs) season is over. The locals have decided to stand up and fight and are tired of their dog "RIGHTS" being threatened. It was an 'in-your-face' season again. Instaed of showing some respect for those of us who challenge our quarry 1 on 1, they made sure to run dogs all over us every day. Why do we buy hunting licenses??????????????????

I didn't buy one this year, and probably won't next year, either. I must say that, as a whole, this year wasn't nearly as bad as some. They did dog this place for one week straight(week of Thanksgiving). And we had quite a few pass-throughs after that, but by then the deer had quit moving during huntable hours, anyway(wonder why?).... eye roll

There are many factors that cause deer to go nocturnal.

1. Human scent
2. Hunting Pressure
3. Enviromental conditions (weather)
4. Moon Phase

Many factors cause deer to go nocturnal.

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Gitterdone,
Don't let a few dog hunters get ya down. Most of the time deer will return to an area they are use to. My deer where I STILL hunt go noctornal after the first few days of hunting season. At the last of the season I backed off from where they eat, sleep, and hang out and bagged a 7- pointer. I went 190 yards across the field and shot him at 110 yards early 29DEC08. I think next year, Lord tarries and we live will be a much better season. You just can't be all up in there back yard no matter how much scent lock you buy. they'll just walk right around you. Happy hunting!

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Hokieman wrote:
tesoronut wrote:
gittrdone wrote:
Thank goodness deer (dogs) season is over. The locals have decided to stand up and fight and are tired of their dog "RIGHTS" being threatened. It was an 'in-your-face' season again. Instaed of showing some respect for those of us who challenge our quarry 1 on 1, they made sure to run dogs all over us every day. Why do we buy hunting licenses??????????????????

I didn't buy one this year, and probably won't next year, either. I must say that, as a whole, this year wasn't nearly as bad as some. They did dog this place for one week straight(week of Thanksgiving). And we had quite a few pass-throughs after that, but by then the deer had quit moving during huntable hours, anyway(wonder why?).... eye roll

There are many factors that cause deer to go nocturnal.

1. Human scent
2. Hunting Pressure
3. Enviromental conditions (weather)
4. Moon Phase

Many factors cause deer to go nocturnal.

Yes in deed, you're right. I'd have to blame #2 over the others. That one also kinda "breeds" #1. Thumbs up

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I am an avid deer hunter in North Carolina and I have been hunting for 34 years now (since age 6). I remember getting my first gun when I was age 7 (double barrel .410 shotgun) for squirrel hunting. I have been squirrel hunting, rabbit huntin w/ & w/o dogs, coon hunting w/ dogs, quail hunting w/o dogs, dove hunting, duck hunting, and deer hunting w/ & w/o dogs. I have had a great time participating in all the different types of hunting and continue to.

I mostly still hunt for deer now with some small game hunting mixed in there occassionally. I will say that I sympathize with all parties involved with the deer hunting with dogs issue. All the different parties have very justifiable arguments and are worthy to be heard. We as hunters/outdoor enthusiasts need to stick together for the common good and priviledges we have to be able to enjoy the great sport of hunting. We need to listen very carefully to what the dog hunters, still hunters, landowners, and nonhunters have to say because the truth lies in what they all have experienced.

I remember the days as a young hunter when me and my stepdad would go down to eastern NC once a year to a club to hunt deer w/ dogs and I used to look forward to that trip all year long. I loved to hunt and it didnt matter to me if it was w/ dogs or not. It was a real rush to hear the dogs get on the trail of a deer and the excitement that built up waiting to get back to camp to see what everyone got was overhelming at times. I have a lot of good memories from my early years of deer hunting with dogs, so I can identify with the dog hunter. Though I have equal, if not more, excitement/anticipation/memories from my still hunting experiences, because it is just you and nature and you have to rely on your woodsmanship, calling skills, and patterning skills in order to harvest that mature buck. To me it is much more of a challenge to still hunt or even try to stalk a deer.

I say all the above to say this: I am definitely not against dog hunting for deer or any other species for that matter, and the unethical dog hunter is definitely no worse than the unethical still hunter. I prefer still hunting now because it is more of a challenge for me and that is just a preference. I feel that it is the illegal hunting and illegal trespassing that we need to be contending with and not a style or preference of hunting. Dog hunters and still hunters need to be following the regulations. But I have to admit that throughout my years of hunting I do not have a 100% squeaky clean record, sometimes in our youth our quest for game and enthusiam for the outdoors we do things that are not always what we should do. But as you grow older , you mature as a hunter.

I now hunt a 100 acre farm in central NC and a 400 acre farm in eastern NC, and both have had problems with dog hunters running their dogs through the property, driving on the property, damaging the property, and trespassing on the property without permission. We have also had problems with non dog hunters driving four wheelers, trespassing w/o permission, hunting/fishing w/o permission and damaging the property. Both farms are posted, and the 400 acre farm is posted with NC Wildlife Resources Comission, but it has not done any good at all really. We have even contacted the local game warden that services the area near the 400 acre farm and he basically said that he had to service three counties and he couldnt come running everytime we called about trespassing, or course he is a local who knows everyone down there.

There is not much more legislation that could be put into place for the hunter to stop slipping in on private property (maybe steeper penalties), but there is more that could be done about dog hunters running dogs through personal property. I am definitely in agreement with having to ask the landowner permission to retrieve their dogs, unarmed. And I also like the idea of everyone/vehicle having written permits to hunt a certain tract and that tract of land having to be a certain size (1000 acres sounds like a good start). I dont think any ethical dog hunter will have a problem with legislation being implemented to protect landowners. I wish the laws were more strict in NC, so they would give the landowners, whether they are hunters or not, more protection.

By the way, when I dog hunted as a teenager we did it around the Lake Waccamaw area on HUGE tracts of land with no houses in sight for miles. That is the type of land tracts that it needs to be done on, not smaller farm acreages with mini subdivisions nearby and small communities. Also, there are millions and millions of state gamelands and national forests that dog hunters can go to.

Well that is my say for whatever it is worth. Happy hunting smile

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That is a great post, PSQ! Thumbs up

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Welcome to BGH psg69801.
Great Post. Well said.

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