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rick64 wrote:
Hokieman wrote:
The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance (VHDA) was formed as an umbrella organization, part of the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance PAC, to give Virginia Sportsmen a political voice within the law. Many groups came together because many of the"old line established or nationally affiliated organizations" simply were more interested in going along to get along. They did not criticize the DGIF Board or staff when it was needed! Now the DGIF Board has undertaken a dangerous course the Hound Study that they say"Will determine the future of hunting in Virginia"! Virginia’s Sportsmen need a strong voice to tell the bureaucrats and politicians not to tread on our rights! They want their Sportsmen’s organization to be bold defenders of their Heritage not elitists that ignore the hunting traditions that are as old as Virginia herself! We had many attacked us, you are not the first nor will you be the last .

I'm not attacking anyone, just stating the fact. If you don't think they are accurate, I'm listening.............

Rick, let me explain.

Virginia Sportsmen and Sportswomen ask yourself this Question. If This Hound Hunting Study Or These Actions Were Taken By The Wildlife Department In Any Other State, Every Sportsman and Sportswoman In America Would Call It Anti-hunting.

Dgif Is Pointing To Their 91 Year History Of Support For Sportsman To Say Trust Us! I Say Look At Their Track Record For The Last 2 Year History Of This Board! “The people have a right to hunt, fish, and harvest game, subject to such regulations and restrictions as the General Assembly may prescribe by general law. Virginia Constitution, Article XI, section 4”

The DGIF derives all authority from the legislature, which according to Article 1 Section 2 of the Virginia Constitution is derived from the people.

The DGIF Board members, all 11 are currently appointed by the Governor and serve "at his pleasure". Only the Governor sets policy for his administration, Governor Kaine has a record of being aggressively anti-gun and pro animal rights! We need the members of the General Assembly to help defend our Heritage and put the hunters of Virginia trust back into the DGIF! Call your Virginia senator today!!! and ask them to "support house bill 1352 and Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance efforts to de-politize the DGIF Board by restructuring the Board so the six positions are appointed by the General Assembly and are no longer" at will" positions.

"The DGIF Board consists of 11 members appointed by the Governor of VA, with one representative selected from each congressional district in the state. The Board meets approximately six times a year to set regulations and policy for the operation of the Department. Proposed regulations are presented at public meetings so that anyone who has an interest in them is able to voice their opinion. Once the discussion is completed, the Board votes on the regulation and sets a date for when it will take effect if it passed."

It's important that you understand that all hunters in Virginia should do this not just the hound hunters to preserve their way of hunting for the future generations.

Let me explain, House Bill 1352, First of all, if we can succeed in getting six of the eleven members of the DGIF Board appointed by the Legislature... 4 House, 2 Senate and have all members of the Board serve for "good service" as opposed to "at will" they will be better able to resist the pressure from the appointing authority to follow political winds and more likely to follow their conscience. If they are required to hold a Virginia hunting, fishing or trapping license for the three years prior to their appointment you most likely will get a better group of Virginia hunters that will be more likely able to perform their job making important decisions in the department on issues regarding rules and regulation, wildlife management, etc based on prior hunting experience and to follow the voice of the people.

Restructuring The Dgif Board Is the only “Key To Preserving Your Hunting Heritage For Future Generations.” Call And Ask Your Virginia Senator!!! To Support House Bill 1352 Vote Yes.

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Hokieman wrote:
rick64 wrote:
Hokieman wrote:
The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance (VHDA) was formed as an umbrella organization, part of the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance PAC, to give Virginia Sportsmen a political voice within the law. Many groups came together because many of the"old line established or nationally affiliated organizations" simply were more interested in going along to get along. They did not criticize the DGIF Board or staff when it was needed! Now the DGIF Board has undertaken a dangerous course the Hound Study that they say"Will determine the future of hunting in Virginia"! Virginia’s Sportsmen need a strong voice to tell the bureaucrats and politicians not to tread on our rights! They want their Sportsmen’s organization to be bold defenders of their Heritage not elitists that ignore the hunting traditions that are as old as Virginia herself! We had many attacked us, you are not the first nor will you be the last .

I'm not attacking anyone, just stating the fact. If you don't think they are accurate, I'm listening.............

Rick, let me explain.

Virginia Sportsmen and Sportswomen ask yourself this Question. If This Hound Hunting Study Or These Actions Were Taken By The Wildlife Department In Any Other State, Every Sportsman and Sportswoman In America Would Call It Anti-hunting.

Dgif Is Pointing To Their 91 Year History Of Support For Sportsman To Say Trust Us! I Say Look At Their Track Record For The Last 2 Year History Of This Board! “The people have a right to hunt, fish, and harvest game, subject to such regulations and restrictions as the General Assembly may prescribe by general law. Virginia Constitution, Article XI, section 4”

The DGIF derives all authority from the legislature, which according to Article 1 Section 2 of the Virginia Constitution is derived from the people.

The DGIF Board members, all 11 are currently appointed by the Governor and serve "at his pleasure". Only the Governor sets policy for his administration, Governor Kaine has a record of being aggressively anti-gun and pro animal rights! We need the members of the General Assembly to help defend our Heritage and put the hunters of Virginia trust back into the DGIF! Call your Virginia senator today!!! and ask them to "support house bill 1352 and Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance efforts to de-politize the DGIF Board by restructuring the Board so the six positions are appointed by the General Assembly and are no longer" at will" positions.

"The DGIF Board consists of 11 members appointed by the Governor of VA, with one representative selected from each congressional district in the state. The Board meets approximately six times a year to set regulations and policy for the operation of the Department. Proposed regulations are presented at public meetings so that anyone who has an interest in them is able to voice their opinion. Once the discussion is completed, the Board votes on the regulation and sets a date for when it will take effect if it passed."

It's important that you understand that all hunters in Virginia should do this not just the hound hunters to preserve their way of hunting for the future generations.

Let me explain, House Bill 1352, First of all, if we can succeed in getting six of the eleven members of the DGIF Board appointed by the Legislature... 4 House, 2 Senate and have all members of the Board serve for "good service" as opposed to "at will" they will be better able to resist the pressure from the appointing authority to follow political winds and more likely to follow their conscience. If they are required to hold a Virginia hunting, fishing or trapping license for the three years prior to their appointment you most likely will get a better group of Virginia hunters that will be more likely able to perform their job making important decisions in the department on issues regarding rules and regulation, wildlife management, etc based on prior hunting experience and to follow the voice of the people.

Restructuring The Dgif Board Is the only “Key To Preserving Your Hunting Heritage For Future Generations.” Call And Ask Your Virginia Senator!!! To Support House Bill 1352 Vote Yes.

Derrick first off if you want to compare VA to other states, why doesn't VA have Sunday hunting like 43 other states? Most other states don't allow dogs for deer hunting, so they aren't having to deal with the same issues. There's is nothing anti-hunting about the study and I don't see the VHDA offering any alternative to the problems. One could say that the VHDA is anti-hunting for their position on Sunday hunting.

The DGIF has had some well documented problems and those individuals have been dealt with. The smear campaign that you and the VHDA has put on has not helped anyone. With the VHDA's track record on being honest they should be the last to point out others flaws.

HB 1352 is a bad bill

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rick64 wrote:
Hokieman wrote:
rick64 wrote:
Hokieman wrote:
The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance (VHDA) was formed as an umbrella organization, part of the Commonwealth Sportsmen’s Alliance PAC, to give Virginia Sportsmen a political voice within the law. Many groups came together because many of the"old line established or nationally affiliated organizations" simply were more interested in going along to get along. They did not criticize the DGIF Board or staff when it was needed! Now the DGIF Board has undertaken a dangerous course the Hound Study that they say"Will determine the future of hunting in Virginia"! Virginia’s Sportsmen need a strong voice to tell the bureaucrats and politicians not to tread on our rights! They want their Sportsmen’s organization to be bold defenders of their Heritage not elitists that ignore the hunting traditions that are as old as Virginia herself! We had many attacked us, you are not the first nor will you be the last .

I'm not attacking anyone, just stating the fact. If you don't think they are accurate, I'm listening.............

Rick, let me explain.

Virginia Sportsmen and Sportswomen ask yourself this Question. If This Hound Hunting Study Or These Actions Were Taken By The Wildlife Department In Any Other State, Every Sportsman and Sportswoman In America Would Call It Anti-hunting.

Dgif Is Pointing To Their 91 Year History Of Support For Sportsman To Say Trust Us! I Say Look At Their Track Record For The Last 2 Year History Of This Board! “The people have a right to hunt, fish, and harvest game, subject to such regulations and restrictions as the General Assembly may prescribe by general law. Virginia Constitution, Article XI, section 4”

The DGIF derives all authority from the legislature, which according to Article 1 Section 2 of the Virginia Constitution is derived from the people.

The DGIF Board members, all 11 are currently appointed by the Governor and serve "at his pleasure". Only the Governor sets policy for his administration, Governor Kaine has a record of being aggressively anti-gun and pro animal rights! We need the members of the General Assembly to help defend our Heritage and put the hunters of Virginia trust back into the DGIF! Call your Virginia senator today!!! and ask them to "support house bill 1352 and Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance efforts to de-politize the DGIF Board by restructuring the Board so the six positions are appointed by the General Assembly and are no longer" at will" positions.

"The DGIF Board consists of 11 members appointed by the Governor of VA, with one representative selected from each congressional district in the state. The Board meets approximately six times a year to set regulations and policy for the operation of the Department. Proposed regulations are presented at public meetings so that anyone who has an interest in them is able to voice their opinion. Once the discussion is completed, the Board votes on the regulation and sets a date for when it will take effect if it passed."

It's important that you understand that all hunters in Virginia should do this not just the hound hunters to preserve their way of hunting for the future generations.

Let me explain, House Bill 1352, First of all, if we can succeed in getting six of the eleven members of the DGIF Board appointed by the Legislature... 4 House, 2 Senate and have all members of the Board serve for "good service" as opposed to "at will" they will be better able to resist the pressure from the appointing authority to follow political winds and more likely to follow their conscience. If they are required to hold a Virginia hunting, fishing or trapping license for the three years prior to their appointment you most likely will get a better group of Virginia hunters that will be more likely able to perform their job making important decisions in the department on issues regarding rules and regulation, wildlife management, etc based on prior hunting experience and to follow the voice of the people.

Restructuring The Dgif Board Is the only “Key To Preserving Your Hunting Heritage For Future Generations.” Call And Ask Your Virginia Senator!!! To Support House Bill 1352 Vote Yes.

Derrick first off if you want to compare VA to other states, why doesn't VA have Sunday hunting like 43 other states? Most other states don't allow dogs for deer hunting, so they aren't having to deal with the same issues. There's is nothing anti-hunting about the study and I don't see the VHDA offering any alternative to the problems. One could say that the VHDA is anti-hunting for their position on Sunday hunting.

The DGIF has had some well documented problems and those individuals have been dealt with. The smear campaign that you and the VHDA has put on has not helped anyone. With the VHDA's track record on being honest they should be the last to point out others flaws.

HB 1352 is a bad bill

Rick your entilted to your opinion. On that note I think we can agree to disagree. Have a good day.

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I'll agree with that.

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The session is almost half over. Next week is cross over when the House of Delegates takes up Senate passed bills and the Senate takes up those bills passed by the House. The fun begins again!

The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance has continued to work against a long list of bad “Animal Rights Bills”.
a number have been killed, but are still a number to be defeated. We have taken positions on all bills that effect hunting, but because of the large number of bills this year have left the “Gun Bills” to the NRA and Virginia Civilian Defense League. We will get involved when our friends say they need our help!

A complete list of Bills that the Alliance is following and our positions are on the web site http://vahda.org. The Board of Directors in Accordance with the By-laws has approved these positions.

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Hokieman wrote:
No-Dogs 2009 wrote:
Here's a pic of why we need change. Why are dogs still out there chasing deer? Pics taken in the last week. Something need to be done to change this and VDGIF has the right idea by doing the survey on dog chasing.

I don't see any time stamp to support your remark and it looks like it was either 2 or the same trail cam in different locations and different times of the day.

I saw 3 beagles chasing deer yesterday so it appears the deer dog training season is in. They were on private property chasing deer across a gun range no less.

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HB 1352 defeated on the floor of the House.

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Hokieman wrote:
The session is almost half over. Next week is cross over when the House of Delegates takes up Senate passed bills and the Senate takes up those bills passed by the House. The fun begins again!

The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance has continued to work against a long list of bad “Animal Rights Bills”.
a number have been killed, but are still a number to be defeated. We have taken positions on all bills that effect hunting, but because of the large number of bills this year have left the “Gun Bills” to the NRA and Virginia Civilian Defense League. We will get involved when our friends say they need our help!

A complete list of Bills that the Alliance is following and our positions are on the web site http://vahda.org. The Board of Directors in Accordance with the By-laws has approved these positions.

Yet your organization sides with the Animal Rights Activists when you publicly state you are against Sunday Hunting and fight any attempts to pass legislation in VA...It doesn't make sense to me and you never mention it in your myriad of posts across the internet.

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CJ wrote:
Hokieman wrote:
The session is almost half over. Next week is cross over when the House of Delegates takes up Senate passed bills and the Senate takes up those bills passed by the House. The fun begins again!

The Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance has continued to work against a long list of bad “Animal Rights Bills”.
a number have been killed, but are still a number to be defeated. We have taken positions on all bills that effect hunting, but because of the large number of bills this year have left the “Gun Bills” to the NRA and Virginia Civilian Defense League. We will get involved when our friends say they need our help!

A complete list of Bills that the Alliance is following and our positions are on the web site http://vahda.org. The Board of Directors in Accordance with the By-laws has approved these positions.

Yet your organization sides with the Animal Rights Activists when you publicly state you are against Sunday Hunting and fight any attempts to pass legislation in VA...It doesn't make sense to me and you never mention it in your myriad of posts across the internet.

CJ, That statement is incorrect. Shame on You!

We did not team up with anyone. Our Board voted to oppose any Sunday Hunting Bill well before the session began. The bill was defeated in Senate Ag Committee with one decenting vote. The remaining members from both parties voted against it. The Farm Bureau, the Virginia Agri-Business Council, the Virginia Horse Breeders Association and the VHDA spoke against it. We are not the ones attacking other Sportsmen or selling them down the river because we want something they have. We will stand with all sportsmen for the good of the sport and listen to any thoughtful discussion. We strongly suggest that all hunters take stock of who will stand with whom when the chips are down.

CJ
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We will stand with all sportsmen for the good of the sport and listen to any thoughtful discussion. We strongly suggest that all hunters take stock of who will stand with whom when the chips are down.

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Obviously that statement is a lie. If you don't work to support Sunday Hunting Hunting your organization is not working for the "good of the sport" your only working to protect your own interests.

I agree hunters need to take stock of will stand with whom when the chips are down and it is not with the VDHA.

The VDHA stance on no Sunday Hunting is discriminatory, limits the growth in hunting in VA, is fiscally irresponsible, and biologically unsound.

In summary Sunday Hunting is the wave of the future, is strongly supported by younger hunters in suburban and urban areas, and is sensible for the needs of the 21rst century hunter with a busy schedule who must travel to hunt.

To be against Sunday Hunting one is furthuring the goals of those organizations that want to ban hunting altogether in VA.

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