Well Utah started letting spike hunters hunt in these prime areas, some of these areas are trophy class bulls stomping grounds. You could see this from a mile a way, a hunter gets a spike tag and goes to a trophy area and sees a big bull and bam a wasted trophy, meat and all. I think it takes self control, and alot of field experience to wait for the right animal and a first year elk hunter with a spike tag in these areas, yeah big bulls are going to get wasted. Just an opinion.
All the elk were poached where there has been a spike bull hunt since they started the spike hunt. There are other areas in the state that only had the limited entry hunt until last year when the regs were changed to allow a spike bull hunt during the general season. The area that they are talking about also has a limited entry hunt every year for any bull. I have hunted the area so I know it well enough to know where these killings happened at. So if you are talking about a person getting excited about seeing a large bull while spike hunting and then shooting it doesn't make sense.
All you can say about it is that it was plain poaching that was going on and nothing else. If you can't tell the difference between a spike bull and a trophy animal then it is time to hang up the rifle and take up something else that you are capable of.
i hunted new mexico last year. i had a cow tag. i saw two cows and a calf before daylight, i saw 3 different bulls after daylight. sure i got excited but i never pulled the trigger. excitement is no excuse for poaching, not ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand the difficulty in holding back on a trophy animal but isn't hunting in general all about self control and ethics???? If we must organize hunts so that we don't tempt anyone to do wrong then we might as well pass a law to have all hunters chaperoned. I mean whats the difference in sending in deer hunters to a trophy elk unit and sending in spike only hunters or cow hunters??
We look at Deer, elk moose, buffalo all the time while hunting. I don't have to shoot everything that moves.
This is just plain poaching. It is not a matter of mistaking a mature bull for a spike,
We call lots of elk in, We look at them and decide if they are the one we want to shoot. If we have a spike tag, we shoot a spike, if we have a Limited entry tag, we wait until we think we got the best trophey the area offers. If you shoot the first one you see, The funs over and the work begins.
Part of the fun is just seeing how close you can get.
I have done everything possible to get my kids involved in hunting. Every time out whether it be scouting, camping or during the actual hunt, I will challenge them to find their way back without using any electronics (GPS). Also without a compass. They know by now that I am going to challenge one of them, so right off the bat when leaving our vehicle or camp they will start picking out land marks to help them out. Makes me and them feel confident that if we were to somehow separate that they...