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Location: Southern NH
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Utah elk hunters???

Where do all the Utah elk hunters hang out online since they've shut down the state website forum? I am looking into a Utah elk hunt but need to look at units, seasons, etc. I need to know if I have enough points to draw a decent hunt or if I need to keep buying points each year. I have 8 NR points for the Limited elk hunt. I'm thinking I need a few more. Price went up this year because you have to buy a license before you can draw a point. Getting expensive. eye roll

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Location: Kentucky/ Colorado
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Utah elk hunters???

NH, Yes it's going to be expensive to apply for Utah. The sad thing about the LE elk tags for the non-residents is our horrible draw odds. We get 7.5% of the total LE tags after you take out the convention tags. With 8 points, you have a better chance than most NR's. Since they shut down the Utah forum, we had quite a few Utah guys come over to http://www.muleymadness.com and also have a few guides on there who work for mossback.

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Location: Southern NH
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Hi Hiker!

I looked around muleymadness and it did seem like some people fled to that site. Too bad, the forum at the state website was pretty busy. I signed up as a user at MM so I need to check in there more often. I think a lot of people went to the North American Hunting Club site but it went through some changes and it seems like a bunch of people bailed out of there.

I was originally looking at the Wasatch unit but there are better units for elk in Utah. To be truthful, any LE hunt in a unit with decent numbers should be an improvement over what I've been seeing for bulls in CO. I only hunt public land so there are a few big bulls around, but mostly raghorns. I spoke with a guy who hunted Utah in the early 90's with an LE tag. He said he wouldn't shoot a 5X5 in UT, only 6X6 or bigger. The trick is to get your paws on a tag. I wonder if it's still true?

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Location: Colorado
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Utah elk hunters???

NH Hunter,

I live in SW Colorado, 60 miles from Monticello, Utah and there are some big bulls (400 class) in that area! Not sure how many points it takes to draw a tag there. You might call the Utah Game & Fish and ask them.

I decided to not apply in Utah anymore. I cant believe they are making people purchase a 365 day hunting license to just appy for a LE tag.

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Location: Southern NH
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cost

Yeah, they really upped the ante. I don't want to waste my 8 points but I'm not sure how many more I'm willing to pay for at $75 per point. The tag is already $795 if you draw. Brick Wall,)

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Re: cost
NH Hunter wrote:
Yeah, they really upped the ante. I don't want to waste my 8 points but I'm not sure how many more I'm willing to pay for at $75 per point. The tag is already $795 if you draw. Brick Wall,)

Some of those big Utah bulls have been killed on the Colorado side of the border the last few years!

I wish you the best of luck in the Utah drawing, it is definately a hard one to draw!!

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thanks!

Thanks huntquest! It's either gonna take a boatload of luck or a boatload of $$$$. I'm pretty sure my wife is hoping for good luck.

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Utah wildlife network. that is the name of the new forum, all of the same guys are on that sight. I have the max in bounus points for utah 15 in 2009 i can draw any tag for the state i want. but i am trying to gain points , so my brother who has 6 points can put in together and draw two tags. That would be a cool hunt. so i have no choice to but to pay for the big game license, after i draw the tags utah, i will probably never hunt that state again, to bad really some really great people in utah! However UDWR treats the non res hunters like crap. And they do not care, if you dont have the big dollars and the 65 for the license upsets you, "great we didnt want you here any way". Utah wants to become a trophy only state that is where the money is at , And the DWR and the state legislature work hand in hand to make this happen. sad

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soules,

Thanks for the web site info! Truth be told, I don't know of a western state that caters to the NR's. They don't need to...we keep on buying tags and licenses. Just look at the amount of people who have points in UT. I'll have 9 this year and there's a ton of people ahead of me. I kick myself everytime I think about missing the draw deadline in 2006. That $5 point just cost me $75. Like you, this will be a once in a lifetime LE draw for me. I'll never have enough points for a second LE draw the way things are going. That's pretty nice of you to share your points bonanza with your brother. That would be very cool. Thumbs up

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Location: gulfport MS
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Utah elk hunters???

NH hunter (is that new hampshire?) thanks, but it might not be well deserved it feels like you wait so long for a tag, that you would be wasting it by just drawing one tag. Now my brother is at 8 next year 9 with his app i will be at 16 and 17 with my app.That 13 points to the draw per hunter, we can draw a nice area but not the marquee s hunting areas, (san juan MT Dutton pilot mnt ect) if we wait two years after we should be able to draw any hunt in the state. And yes i to will then stop hunting utah. But with three kids i can ill afford to be paying 75 for a bonus point per a year. plus all my other hunting expenses, it may seem like a little to some people but it adds up. You are right about how Non res get treated, it just seems like idaho tries harder than most states to make you feel welcomed. Big smile

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ID

Yeah, it's New Hampshire. Pretty original, huh? eye roll We only get TV time about every four years for a couple of weeks. I've never hunted ID. I have to make most of my judgements based on CO. Don't get me wrong, I love hunting in CO and feel lucky to be able to do it every year. The cost has gone through the roof since I started. CO used to be a bargain. It's still pretty cheap if you can draw a cow tag. UT costs have gone up quite a bit, also. I guess everywhere has gone up. Whadya gonna do?

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