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Unsportsmanlike Conduct in Illinois

We are having a few issues with locals here in Southern Illinois

I am hunting public land - and shotgun season starts next week...

Locals are walking through the state owned woods with sticks - banging on trees and shouting.

They are also releasing packs of dogs on this same land

All of this is being done presumably to scare the deer off and "save" more of them for the shotgun season next week

I am sure these individuals do not represent the Illinois populace as a whole but it is discouraging....

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Ooops Forgot to mention I

Ooops

Forgot to mention I said in another post that I sa a buck chasing a doe across a crp field this morning... A few moments later, 5 dogs came wandering through so I wondr if it was really a love inspired chase after all - or maybe just flight?

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If Illinois has a hunter

If Illinois has a hunter harassment law on their books you might want to check into it. 

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Unsportsmanlike Conduct?

Jim -

 I'm not so sure that I'd call that unsportsmanlike conduct.

 I'd call it hunter harassment if they are doing this in an area where people are hunting.

It's not just the anti's who can be guilty of harassment, but anyone who interferes with the legitimate hunt of game animals by others.

If the act is repeated, I would report it to the Illinois DNR - they must have laws against hunter harassment, just as many other states.

In addition, in Michigan this would be considered illegal harassment of animals. It might be considered a drive if there were hunters stationed in likely escape routes.

But I doubt that they have anyone waiting with a bow to try to shoot a running deer that these people are chasing out of their habitat.

Good Luck.

 

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Man, that would suck.  I

Man, that would suck.  I would find it hard to believe though that it's hunters doing it.  Seems counter-productive.

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I do believe it is local

I do believe it is local hunters

We are not near any major cities

I would find it unusual to have an anti hunter group in this area

The game warden office is right across the road from the camp - I am definitely going to go talk with them but I am reasonably sure that the complaints will be met with some apathy - I am sure that these guys are faced with the same issues that LE is faced with in SC - declining bugets, mileage limitations for game wardens, bigger territories for them to patrol, etc...just makes it harder for them to do their jobs...but I guess that is another post altogether.

Again I am sure that these incidents are the result of some misguided people and do not represent the people of Illinois at all - I have been met with nice people up here at every turn...

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If that is other hunters

If that is other hunters doing that what a big bunch of jerks they are. I wish you the best of luck over there and I hope you nail a big one. Not just for yourself but to rub it in their faces as well.

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Thanks Man of the Fall

I am pretty sure it is hunters - I can see no other reason for the interference.

I have a similar situation in SC with a piece of leased land.

The adjoining landowner makes it a point to walk the fence banging on the fence, riding back and forth on his tractor or the golf cart and it is always during the prime hunting times.

I did not see it coming when I leased the land and will not lease it again.

I do partially fault the landowners as I feel like the quite likely knew the situation existed or at least knew the potential for it was there.

But - it is what it is - I feel the worst that a guy and his family joined the lease with me and they are having to suffer through it and try to hunt around it.

Pain in the backside for sure.
Live and learn.

Jim

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I'ld still report them to the

I'ld still report them to the fish and game.  They may not be able to do anything since the other guy is on his own property but at least they can go have a talk to him and let him know the laws. 

 

I was hunting one year when an outfitter came up to me on a road and informed me that I was on private property and to get off.  Since I was on a road I told him where to go and what to do.  Later I taked to a warden and filed a hunter harasment complaint against him.  I also found out that where I was the BLM had bought the private property.  That outfitter lost his license for a couple of years over that problem and a couple of other thing that he was pulling.

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Critter We did contact the

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We did contact the game warden in SC

He stated the land owner was not breaking any laws and there was nothing he could do

Sounds like some states - like Michigan - have more comprehensive and enforceable laws regarding this - but no one is ever going to accuse SC of being a progressive state so I am sort of stuck with it - or so it seems!

As for Illinois - they cut the dogs loose again today so I can see a clear pattern here - ar at least it feels like one to me and I am not really a conspiracy theory kind of guy

Today is my last bowhunt and I intend to return next year and hope for better conditions all around.

Hope springs eternal in the breast - and all that...I am sure all of you understand!

Jim

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Sometimes hunters are our own

Sometimes hunters are our own worst enemies.  I am sorry but I hold hunters to a higher standard than other people in society.  Kind of like the line from spiderman, with great power comes great responsibility.  I expect hunters to be respectful, law abiding citizens, not slobs that would ruin someone else's hunt to give them a shot at a deer.  just plain wrong.

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