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Unit 4 Colorado Elk

Hi everyone, just curious about the elk in unit 4 now days.  Buddies and I have hunted it several times with good success but its been since 2011.  We have tags for first season cow this year.  Wondering how the herd is doing.

We have, along with several others as you know, always had good luck in the hole in the wall drainage.... and back toward the grizzly park area. 

 I understand the DOW has lowered tags in the unit and the herd is near objective but are there still good numbers or more hit and miss these days.  When we started you could make a kill... go to town and buy a leftover and harvest a second elk if you cared to.  One year we tagged out on the fourth day of season.  My latest experience is if you do not have luck by 4 pm opening day any elk in the area disappear overnight.

I have been told by a local to try our luck lower and close to angel springs.  What is your opinion?

Appreciate any help, but also understand it is a touchy subject.

Lastly, I remember an outfitter "Dusty Trails" who would take a pack string in and get your game for you but he wasnt around last time I was there.  Is there anyone who still does this other than renting from Sombraro (scary)?

Im new to this site, but I attached a photo from 2011.  Im on the far right with outfitters hat and a cold celebatory drink as the ones you see have tagged and everyone else is still hunting.

Thank You.... Happy Elk Hunting in 15'

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I have a buddy that hunt's

I have a buddy that hunt's bear ears just out of graig that season they usally fill out, but from what he tells me it is wall to wall tents and if they don't fill there tags opening morning they usally go home empty handed so it's kinda first come first serve.

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Yeah, kind of been my

Yeah, kind of been my experience too.  We have had luck not far from the road even but that is what it was... luck- animals pushed by other hunters.  I love to keep moving all day farther and farther away from people but then I get the sick feeling of "what do I do if I happen to get one way back here"  But it is fun either way.

I kind of want to explore a new area, but my buds are like dont fix something that isnt broke.  To me it is broke, too many people and the elk are fewer between and pushed out early.  I know the Craig Wild Bunch does very well, but who wants to pay an outfitter just to put you on elk. 

I appreciate the response... I would love to move to Colorado, but my wife is a full blooded Ohioan and I will never be able to make it happen.  I moved to Ohio from Indiana a few years back to marry her.  You would think that I would be happy to do so with all the deer in Ohio... big ones too, I see them all the time.  Problem is landowners are stingy here.

Cant wait for October ... I truly love the mountains.

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Hole in the wall drainage.

Hello,

I've been archery hunting the unit 62 area a few years.

I havn't been out to unit 4 since 2005. We hunted  the hole in the wall area 2 1/2 miles in from the road. We rented horses both trips. There were guys that would pack for you when I was there also. I remember seeing a Dusty Trail Outfitters camp along the road.

Colorado is an awesome place to be. Everytime I go, when I drive back to Illinois, I get a few miles from home and look around and say to myself "Who in the hell would want to live here" Ha! Can't see much, too much corn! But it's home.

I can p.m. you some coordinates and details of our unit 4 hunts of 2003 and 2005.  

They are at my other office, won't catch up to them untill next week.

Would exspect you to, in return, let me know how the population is as I plan to muzzleloader hunt there next year.

I'll send a pm next week.

Good luck, Jay.

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Deal

Sounds like a good deal to me.  I am like you, I really get depressed when I leave the mountains.  Now I live even further from them (2 hours).  I would be glad to help you in any way I can so I look forward to your PM.

Thank you for replying.  I am new to the site but I am glad I joined as I really enjoy reading everyone's posts.  Really good information here..... think Ill stay!

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I guess I'll chime in a bit

I guess I'll chime in a bit here. I have been hunting the unit for every year, with only one exception, since 2004. There are still plenty of elk there (not like 10 years ago) but the numbers of hunters have sky rocketed! Distance from roads or trailheads is no guarantee of solitude. There are more horseback hunters every year and they will go pretty far and deep as well as hunters on foot. The most succesful tactic we've developed is finding where the elk are considering escape routes. They never really do escape pressure until they reach the private. Still hunting dense timber can also be productive as not many enjoy crossing deadfall all day long. you just have to get lucky and sneak in on a bull, keep the wind in your face and take your time.

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I agree with you

I agree, we too have had some success still hunting dark timber.  Just have to be on your toes as the opportunities are really quick.

Reminds me of a story.... I was sitting on a down fall on the edge of a park and got caught with my pants down (litteraly as mother nature had called) and four elk came busting out of the timber into the open park and quickly disapeared.  I was hot because my rifle was about three feet from me and I was hobbled by my pant legs.  Soon after I was walking into where they had come out to see what I could see and a really nice 6x6 (for unit 4 anyway) almost ran over me.  I was pouting because of my missed opportunity and was caught off guard. I froze in amazement... this is only minutes after the herd went through.  He looked me in the eyes (his were as wide open as could be), he rared up and spun on his hind legs and bolted back into the timber.... $%*!  Two opportunities in less than 5 minutes apart that came and went in a blink of the eye.

That was opening day in 2006 and we spent day two getting my buddies cow back to camp.  On day three a CO came by and told us we should pack and leave due to a bad snow storm that was on the way.  We headed his warning and headed to Indiana so I didnt get to hunt anymore that year.  It was still a blast with good memories.

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2nd Rifle

Well I'm really up for the challenge as I drew (with my son) a cow tag for the 2nd rifle within GMU 4.  I'm going to scout the area in two weeks.  No horses here but we are not afraid and will be going in deep.  Looking at the back side of Mt. Welba, back side of Bears Ears, and some draws on the east side of the unit.  Good luck to you all hunting Colorado this year!

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I hope you do well... I have

I hope you do well... I have to say an old timer turned me onto GMU 4 a long time ago and we have had some luck 1st season.  They hunted Bears Ears for 30 some years and always went second season and always brought home elk. 

I know this, I would go any season I can get a tag because it is always better than sitting at home thinking about being there.

I am not familiar at all with the area you are going... is this your son's first year? 

I am pretty excited.  I have already started staging my elk camp gear in the basement.

I am sure you will share photos with everyone when you get back home.  I plan to as well.

Good Luck

 

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Thanks and I hope you do well

Thanks and I hope you do well too!  I agree, any hunting is better than no hunting.  My son has hunted elk before but that was our first year and we had a heck of a learning experience.  I have hunted Colorado for eight years now so I'm still learning.  My son has not... but I'm getting him into shape for it.  I have had some luck... and a lot of great time just hunting.  I'm getting my elk camp gear together already as well.  It takes forever for hunting season to get here and then the actual hunt goes way to fast.  I hope to share some great pictures.  Looking forward to yours.

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Been up in that area a few

Been up in that area a few times.  It's a good unit all things considered, but like everywhere else, there are LOTS of hunters and seems to be getting worse every year.  I've seen outfitter tents that could house a semi trailer they were so big.  It's also easy to get snowed in up there, like 2' or more in late september and early october. 

 

 

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