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Hello everyone . I am new to the site and just wanted to finally register and say hello.

I am trying to find some good hunting land that me and my Dad could hunt in Unit 14. This will be our first hunting trip to Kansas and it sure would be appreciated if someone could give us a general area to look at.

He is 63 I am 42 and he is the best friend I have.

Thanks guys for your help

Good luck and be safe,

Greg

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Hey Greg - Welcome to BGH Big smile
Where you coming from? Most of my hunting takes place on private land in Unit 9 which is right above unit 14. Good deer in this area. I have several pics of deer taken from this area posted in Whitetail forum under New member pics and also under deer mounts. Check 'em out if you haven't already.
Are you planning on hunting public land? Rifle or Archery? Do you have your tags yet? Why are you looking at unit 14?

Sounds like you and your Dad have a great relationship! Priceless Thumbs up

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Thank you for the welcome Redrider.

To tell you the truth we just decided the other day to come Kansas. I found out on the web that there were still some NR license available so we thought we would give it a go.
We just picked an area that look good on the map from past records. We will be hunting public land with a rifle. Honestly I'd prefer bowhunting but there were no permits left.
I know the odds will be stacked against us first of all because of not knowing the area and trying find a decent area thats away from the crowds.
I am looking at the WIA map now and I see that I could have made a mistake because it looks as if there is more acreage to hunt in unit 9.
Have I made a mistake trying to hunt public ground?
What kind of property features should I look for when trying to decide which WIA or public land to hunt?

About my Dad,..he is what every kid could ever ask for in a Dad. He always included me and my brother in anything he did outdoors. Not to say he didn't get on my case from time to time(most of the time deserved) but he is the best.
I geuss in the last year or two I have really started to realize that he is slowing down a little and that he may or may not have that many more years left to hunt, so we go as often as we can and I cherish every moment spent with him.
Thats part of the reason I wanted to come to Kansas . I wanted to give him a chance at a "big deer" that he wouldn't have around our neck of the woods.
I don't know if its possible on public land out there but its not possible anywhere in North Ga.
I bought our tags for this unit yesterday. Will they swap for 9?

By the way those are some really nice racks you have posted. Congrats and thanks for asking about our plans.

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Hey Greg - I think regardless of where you go you should have a good time. Not always about getting the big one, right Big smile But it sure helps. I have never hunted public land so I'm afraid I won't be of much help telling you where to go, but I'm going to take a look at that unit and maybe help find some spots to check out. I'm sure your in a good area for some good deer. Just a matter of finding them. I know of some people that have had great success on public land. It's not nearly as crowded here as it may be where you are. Plus a lot of people here have access to private lands so not as many using the public areas. So I don't think you have made a mistake at all, other than not knowing if someone is using the same area you may come across.
Features I would look for will depend on which week you come. It's been my experience that other than opening day the second week provides a better chance at a good buck. The rut hits about 2 weeks prior to opening day and it seems like those big boys disappear to recover. By the second week the does kind of hit that secondary rut plus the big boys have rested a bit and are ready to eat. I would find good bedding areas CRP grass, heavy timber, cedar stands that are close to a crop. Usually on these public lands they will leave some standing crop for the wildlife. Find a good source of water, good size creek with running water. Try and get away from the main roads.
Depending on how much time you are going to take, I would take a couple days, maybe the 2 days after opening weekend, and do some scouting. Find an area like I just described and get in that creek and find where they are crossing heavily. Usually main trails they use alot will be wore down on the banks of the creek. Once you find that take a look around and find a good place to set up within your comfortable shooting range. Getting in those creeks is the fastest and most undetectable way to find good sign.
If they're just not moving, does or bucks, then they are buried deep in their bedding areas. May have to still hunt into those bedding areas. Be very careful on public land though, Wear plenty of Orange.
I don't know if they will exchange your tags or not just give them a call. I really couldn't give you any more advise about Unit 9 public ground either. Like I said I'll take a look at the maps and get back with you.
Here's a link to KDWP in case you don't have it.
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/

Good Luck and keep us posted through the season to see how it is going Thumbs up

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Hey I appreciate the advice Redrider. I was over at my Dads yesterday and my
Uncle came over and told us that we may want to call this fellow in our hometown who went to KS and came home after the third day. According to him there wasn't much public land to hunt and he couldn't find a place where others weren't hunting. Talk about throwing a wet blanket on the fire .....
I am concerned!

About me and my Dad we are planning on staying as long as it takes or as long as we can take it. Our plans are to come out there on Sat or Sun before the hunt and scout around a bit and then if it takes all 10 days well we will be there.

We have hunted the mountains all our lives and it is tough hunting to say the least and the game around these parts is very sparse. We do have a fair number of bear, hogs and turkey but not many deer at all.

I appreciate the help I really do!

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Hey I appreciate the advice Redrider. I was over at my Dads yesterday and my
Uncle came over and told us that we may want to call this fellow in our hometown who went to KS and came home after the third day. According to him there wasn't much public land to hunt and he couldn't find a place where others weren't hunting. Talk about throwing a wet blanket on the fire .....
I am concerned!

About me and my Dad we are planning on staying as long as it takes or as long as we can take it. Our plans are to come out there on Sat or Sun before the hunt and scout around a bit and then if it takes all 10 days well we will be there.

We have hunted the mountains all our lives and it is tough hunting to say the least and the game around these parts is very sparse. We do have a fair number of bear, hogs and turkey but not many deer at all.

I appreciate the help I really do!

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I can't believe he only gave it 3 days. Like I said we hit that period where every deer vanishes. Just have to wait them out because if there are deer in the area they will come back out. By scouting you'll know if there are deer in the area.
So you will be here the weekend before opening day. That's great. Won't be near the pressure at that time and it will give you a good look at what is going on, possibly some good deer movement at that time. Opening day is on Wed. so you will have plenty of scouting days. Don't be discouraged by the friends attempt, he didn't give it near enough time. It won't be easy, but there are good spots to be found i'm sure. If you are coming that early you may want to try knocking on some doors while out scouting, might find a willing landowner with some private land. Call that friend and see what he has to say, if nothing else you'll know where to stay away from. I wish I could point you to a specific area, but I just don't know much about that area. I'll research a little more. Thumbs up

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Ok - I've looked up what lakes are in that area and here are there links:
http://www.lasr.net/pages/lake.php?Lake_ID=KS03lk003
http://www.lasr.net/pages/lake.php?Lake_ID=KS06lk001
http://www.lasr.net/pages/lake.php?Lake_ID=KS01lk004
http://www.lasr.net/pages/city.php?City_ID=KS0607002&Attraction_ID=KS060...
http://www.lasr.net/pages/lake.php?Lake_ID=KS01lk005

There looks to be a lot of river systems running through this Unit also. There should be tons of public hunting.
http://www.kgs.ku.edu/Hydro/lake_maps.html

If you haven't already be sure to contact KDWP and have them send you a copy of tthe 2006 Kansas Hunting Atlas. You'll want this along with you to check out all the public areas and WIHA.

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Redrider you are the man!

I will contact kDWP for their atlas.

I really appreciate your willingness to help a complete stranger. Says something about your character Thumbs up

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Don't mention it , Glad to help. I just enjoy someone getting as much out of hunting as I have. Let me know what they say about switching to unit 9.

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I called and they said the atlases are running behind and won't be out until the 2nd week in Sept. I forgot to ask about switching unit.

I geuss I'll just try to do our best in 14.

I think if we can get in some scouting days we will be fine.

What is a good site to find land for sale in KS? my wife and I are definitely going to retire away from here . Hopefully that will be in the next 5 years.
We have looked at KY and IL but I think the quail hunting would be great to have as well as the deer......

Thanks again Redrider

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