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IN Trying To Force Hunters to Kill More Does

http://www.indystar.com/article/20101126/NEWS05/11260369

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Indiana deer hunting

I just returned two weeks ago from my very first Indiana deer hunt. I hunted an area just across the Ohio river very near Florence, Indiana. The deer herd in that area seems, indeed, to be very healthy and my host told me he had seen some very large bucks in the area as well. Our private property was pretty remote lying at the end of a county gravel road and surrounded by some farmland (dairy farm) to one side and another side that didn't have a road for over two miles. (not all this land was ours alone to hunt)

The deer were certainly there and by morning #2 I'd killed a big bodied 130+" buck that was over 5 yrs old. I only say this because I can understand the attitude of some Indiana hunters reference wanting to kill a good buck. My buck was absolutely nothing special rack-wise where we checked him in. Lots of big antlered bucks in the area it seemed. When the tradition is to shoot a nice buck for neighborhood or family bragging rights, it's darn tough to convince that fella to shoot a doe instead.

Not a QDM expert here, by any means, nor a DNR expert either. But it sure seems to me that when you have a fine, "Heart of America" state such as Indiana, you should NOT mess with their decades old hunting traditions. You want more deer killed? Want more does killed? Well, just add a week-long (two weekends) of a does only hunt at the tail end of the season. At the tail end, your one doe shot likely means three less deer in May or June. Most does are already bred by December and you'll make a larger impact on herd numbers this way, no doubt.

By utilizing a late doe season, you don't mess with a hunter's traditions and big buck dreams, you simply add does to the equation later on. I'll admit to not being willing to take does until all or most of my buck tags are filled and here in Tennessee I can shoot three does a DAY. I prefer to let the does walk early and shoot the bucks looking or chasing. (all three of my bucks thus far this season have been actively chasing)

When/if the herd gets back to more managable levels, simply stop the late season doe only  hunts. There, everyone's happy now and you haven't taken anything away from the buck hunters. What's not to like??Thumbs up Applause

 

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I wonder how much they vetted

I wonder how much they vetted these changes with the hunting public before initiating them?  Sounds like a drastic change. Sometimes change is needed but it is better to implement it incrementally, assessing the change before making further changes instead of upsetting the apple cart overnight.

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The earn a buck programs seem

The earn a buck programs seem to be working, and relatively popular, in the places they are initiated.  I think Wisconsin does it, and some zones in Nebraska are doing it now.  I am all for tradition, but it can't hurt to get more meat in the freezer.  I don't get the refusal to shoot does.

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bucks vs does

Ca_Vermonster wrote:

The earn a buck programs seem to be working, and relatively popular, in the places they are initiated.  I think Wisconsin does it, and some zones in Nebraska are doing it now.  I am all for tradition, but it can't hurt to get more meat in the freezer.  I don't get the refusal to shoot does.

 

I'd suppose it would have something to do with the areas you hunt and deer populations. I choose to never shoot a doe, even though they are legal here all season (3 deer a day), until after I find (or not) a shooter buck. Depending on how big an area someone's hunting they might choose not to shoot and cause the commotion of gutting and dragging (a doe), thinking they might push a mature buck more nocturnal. If a hunter has more than one area and won't be causing commotion in the same area he hopes to tag a nice buck, then I'd agree with the taking of a doe early. I also like the idea of the additional does during the early season to help entice more cruising bucks into an area and then taking one after peak breeding season. Our liberal limit here seems to bring enough does to the butcher shop so we haven't seen any type of earn a buck system here. We have about a million deer in Tennessee and harvest about 175,000 yearly. The numbers work out pretty close to 50-50 bucks/does.

I do, of course, agree that it's all good for the table and a hunter should simply choose to hunt as he/she desires. Buck or doe, shoot whatever you want to, within the regs of course.

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