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Trying to be sold a 30.06 for SC whitetail

I went to my favorite gun shop today to get serious about buying the Kimber Montana and decide between the Zeiss 56mm Divari and the S&B 56mm. I chose the S&B to go on top of the Kimber Montana in a .308. The problem starts here after months of deliberating on what gun,cartrige and scope to get I finally made up my mind.........UNTI the owner,whom i know pulls out a Kimber Montana in a 30.06 and tells me thaqt is the gun i need. I was back at square one. after all of the help and knowledge given to me from you guys I felt lost again. I told him that I felt the 30.06 was too much gun for around here. He simply told me that it was a perfect rifle for here and anywhere especially how much money the combo was going to cost. He said it shoots flat and a 165 grain round would be excellent. i saaid what about the recoil with the gun being 6 lbs. He said it wouldn't be bad at all.

Should I go with this round in hope that I may use it in hunts throughout the country or just get what I primarily hunt here in SC?

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if your not gonna hunt outside your area then yes the 308 would be all you need but if you think down the rd you might be hunting elsewhere then the 30.06 is a great caliber. most popular cal hands down and bullet selection is sweet. recoil isnt all that bad at all Thumbs up

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The recoil difference between a .308 and a .30-06 is not that much. There is a wider variety of ammo available in .30-06, though, and it costs less. Personally, I would get the .30-06.

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Location: Misouri
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308. Why such a big objective scope? Just curious.

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Trying to be sold a 30.06 for SC whitetail

The hunt times here in SC are like over in Europe. We can hunt up to 1 hour after dark and the deer here come out soooo early and late. I have seen more deer in the evening here in woods tan I ever have in the day.

On another note. Do yall think that the 30.06 is just too big for SC whitetail? Will it damage too much meat? I would like to hunt other areas in the U.S. but there are no guarentees.

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The 30-06 isn't going to do any more meat damage than the 308. There isn't enough difference, in performance, between the two to be concerned.
If you shot them side by side. You would not be able to tell which was which.
For a hunting situation, the only benefit to the 308 is it can be had in a tad bit shorter and lighter rifle. I find this a plus in the heavy forests.
I've shot, as many others have, the 30-06 for many years. I went looking for a bit shorter and lighter rifle in 308 because I'm a firm believer in the performance of the 30 cals. I ended up with a 300wsm because it had a bit more energy delivery in the same rifle.
A rifle in 308 can be had with a 20, 22 or 24 inch barrel. The 30-06 and 300wsm come with 22" with the rare option of 24".

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Most people don't realize that the 308 is the 30/06 with 150 grain bullets. It was designed to replace the 06 and does a great job at it (with that bullet in mind). Now, the 06 is much better to shoot heavyer bullets from 180, 200, 220s than the 308. I find them equal in bullet ranging from 150-168 grains. Realize they're no street rod but both loaded with 150 grainers will sling about 3000 fps. That's plenty of power and range for general whitetail hunting, antelope, mulies ect. Having gone thru the magnum phase and/or speed phase of my life I found that I truely enjoy the 308 better than most any other caliber (with the 243 at a close seond). Not to mention I shoot a little over 1000 rounds a year out of it between work and play. neener! It's your money spend it as you will and have fun doing it. Best of luck to you.

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I don't think it's a good idea to sugget's that the 308 and the 30-06 are the same, THEY ARE NOT! The 30-06 won't chamber in a 308 chamber but, a 308 might (?) chamber in a 30-06. Not sure what would happen if someone fired a 308 from a 30-06 chamber but, not a good idea.

Handloading, the 30-06 should give the 150 gr bullet about 200 fps more velocity. It will do it with the 165 gr and 180 gr bullets. I've never used 150 gr 30 cal bullet's much. Have used a lot of 165 and 180 gr in both the 308 and the 30-06.

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CORRECTION: The 308 IS BALLISTICALLY the 30/06 with 150 grain bullets. Never ment to imply they were exact same round or could interchange.

Nosler Reloading Guide Number Four: Page 314
308 Winchester
150 grain partition/ballistic tip

Max Load: XX grains of RL15 @2958 fps with a 24 inch Lija barrel

Nosler Reloading Guide Number Four: Page 325
30/06 Springfield
150 grain partition/ballistic tip

Max Load: XX grains of IMR 4350 @ 3000 FPS with a 24 inch Lija barrel

Each one was the "hottest" load for the given bullet in 150 grains. The 308 also used 13 grains less powder to achive that.

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the wsm in browning is 23" barrel guys ( not 24") the remington wsm is 24"

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I own a Browning wsm with a factory 22" barrel, guy.
Thanks for the info but before you start correcting be sure to have your own ducks in order. This thread is on the 30-06 not the barrel length of the wsm.

You'll find more 06's in the big game field than any other round. What I do is find the bullet that shoots the best, out of that rifle, and stick with it. Matters not whether it be 150, 165 or 180. If you find a 180 that shoots the best, then you will have a rifle for all seasons.

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