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Trivial, but very telling about Obama

We've been well down this road when it comes to critical thought, SoCo, and you've clearly demonstrated that you're completely unable to even think about putting the kool-aid down.

So if I don't think Obama was genuine about his story about stopping smoking I'm suffering from bias and hatred of the left? Come on -- now who's being ridiculous? Oh, yeah...I forgot the prime directive: Thou shalt not criticize The Obama.

By labeling every form of opposition "hate," you weaken the term to the point of irrelevancy -- and increase resentment in people feeling they can't engage in the political process without being burned at the stake.

The story is trivial and unimportant -- or at least it should be. What's silly about it is that they guy has real trouble being genuine. Be human for goodness sake, instead of looking at everything as a political position.

Liberal concerns about Obama have nothing to do with his smoking. They have to do with things like keeping Gates on as SECDEF, making Hillary SECSTATE, etc -- he's taking stances that contradict what they thought he was on board with. They're concerned because they're feeling used and betrayed by a guy who pandered to them in order to get power -- and my reaction to this is...

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expatriate wrote:
We've been well down this road when it comes to critical thought, SoCo, and you've clearly demonstrated that you're completely unable to even think about putting the kool-aid down.

So if I don't think Obama was genuine about his story about stopping smoking I'm suffering from bias and hatred of the left? Come on -- now who's being ridiculous? Oh, yeah...I forgot the prime directive: Thou shalt not criticize The Obama.

By labeling every form of opposition "hate," you weaken the term to the point of irrelevancy -- and increase resentment in people feeling they can't engage in the political process without being burned at the stake.

The story is trivial and unimportant -- or at least it should be. What's silly about it is that they guy has real trouble being genuine. Be human for goodness sake, instead of looking at everything as a political position.

Liberal concerns about Obama have nothing to do with his smoking. They have to do with things like keeping Gates on as SECDEF, making Hillary SECSTATE, etc -- he's taking stances that contradict what they thought he was on board with. They're concerned because they're feeling used and betrayed by a guy who pandered to them in order to get power -- and my reaction to this is...

Laugh Laugh Laugh

Coming from a feller who holds bush, cheney, rove, and gonzo, in high regard you have about zero credibility criticizing anyones honesty or lack thereof.

But, always fun anyway buddy! Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Thumbs up Laugh Laugh

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Trivial, but very telling about Obama

SoCo wrote,

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But, if you can find a perfect person to elect let me know and I'll vote for em to

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As much as it pains me to admit this I must at least partialy agree with So Co on this particular topic. My beliefs tell me the last perfect person to live we managed to nail to a tree. The rest of us are flawed. What a President does in his personal life is really no concern of mine. Considering the job they all have I wouldn't blame any of them for having a smoke and a drinkie pooh or three. As to Obama's truthfulness I can only hope it plays out as he promised not to attack the 2nd amendment. No one hopes more than I do he is a man of his word. If he is, hell I'll buy him a pack and a drink myself and light it for him besides. This is a non issue IMHO. At least it's just a cigarette and not one of Bills cigars. Lord knows where they've been. Laugh

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Geez, SoCo -- talk about dishonesty. I've defended Bush, but I think over the past six years I've said very little about Cheney. And as for Rove and "Gonzo" (I assume you mean Gonzales), I've never said anything that says I hold them in high regard. So once again you're twisting things to make a point that you can't make with facts.

As for Bush, I'll gladly defend him. I may not agree with some of the things he's done, but my firsthand experience told me a lot. I really can't see Obama going out of his way to meet with the family of a fallen soldier, much less meet with them one on one and not make a publicity stunt out of it. Politics aside, I believe Bush to be genuine as a human being -- and I have my doubts about Obama in that regard. I'm not talking about politics -- I'm talking about the guy behind the job that existed before ascending to the presidency, and who will still be around with his family afterward when he's just a citizen again.

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