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training dogs not to play in the field?

any good suggestions on keeping my dogs from acting stupid in the field?

a little back ground:

I have 2 dogs, one is a lab mixed with a brittany spaniel...she's basically just a lab thats colored funny. about 1.5 years old.

the other dog is a border collie terrier mix.

the lab mix stays at my side the whole hunt, and is starting to learn to go look for things and bring them back after i shoot them.....I'm working on that.

the other does a fantastic job flushing things out of any sort of thick mess of cover. her problem is she doesnt come back as reliabley as i'd like......i'm working on that too. shes about 1 year old

anywho...they do pretty decent when they are out alone....more or less obedient, do thier jobs well.

but together its a mess

all they want to do is play with each other.......the last thing they care about is anything i have to say.

whats worse is the lab mix seems impervious to shock collars.....I've only tried it once so far.....but she doesn't even seem to react. I'm going to try again some more on the controlled pheasant hunts that we have around here...

any advice is welcome.....unless its advice to go buy a pure bred something-or-other. I'm just looking for the discipline advice.

Thanks!!

picture attached from last weekend with the lab mutt. (lesson learned: she needs boots, Illinois has a lot of cacti where we were!!!!)

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training dogs not to play in the field?

Find someone doing obedience classes near you and take them. Actually you'll only need one. The other you can train at home with what you learned in obed classes. As for the shock collar, a decent shock collar will put your Lab cross on it's knees. That will only teach it fear tho, shock collars teach nothing. The best thing to do with it is to either put it away and forget about it or sell it.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

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training dogs not to play in the field?

Obedience classes is bang on. I have seen what they do first hand and its, well to say the least, it's damn amazing what they do for owner and dog. Try one man, find a good one and you should be happy. As for the hunting with both dogs, I'd do the classes like don said and teach the other one what you learned then bring One out at a time and practice in the field. I had a Staffordshire terrier (pitbull but small breed) and I was told I wouldnt ever be able to train her to retrieve birds and ducks, and what do ya know; I did, and within a year she was doing both.

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training dogs not to play in the field?

Shock collars are very effective tools when used correctly. The only true thing in the above post is that a shock collar is not a teaching tool. It should be used to reinforce commands that your dog already knows. I see new handlers and inexperienced handlers that yell at their dogs constantly and they have no means to enforce the commands they give. All you do when you do this is teach your dog to ignore you. Take him to an obedience class and teach him the commands you want him to know. Then take him to the field and enforce those commands with your collar. I always tell dog people: Never give a command that you are incapable of or unwilling to enforce. This only creates problems with dogs in the field.

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It's not that what I had to say is not true, it is. But the post was aimed at a trainer that is obviously not ready to use a shock collar. The trainer has problems with training and a shock collar won't fix that. Put the collar away and learn to train.

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I agree 100%. Thumbs up

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