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Any land owner, in TN, wishing to better manage their deer herd can do so by high fencing their land. This will cut down on poaching and trespassing plus you won't have to worry about how the deer are managed or mis-managed on the surrounding properties. All this is legal as long as you hunt during the state set season and stay within the allowed bag limits.

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Yes its legal, but not going to stop poaching and trespassing.. High fencing your land like that is not the answer and a bad idea for management... Plus TWRA still owns those deer in the fencing and can take them out when they see fit..

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High fences don't stop poaching or trespassing but it does slow it down.

TWRA don't own ANY deer. The deer belong to the people of the state of TN.

TWRA can not remove the deer from a high fence enclosure. All that TWRA can do is to enforce the states game laws in regard to those deer.

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Hate to dissagree there Lynn but the TWRA can and DOES remove deer at thier disgression (whim) whenever they see fit to and yes if they think those deer (thier pockets) will be better served somewhere else then rest assured they will come get them with a court order in hand. Deer are concidered a WILD game animal and high fencing constitutes capture (which btw is illegal) Its just not on the books as such because most dont fool with the cost of high fencing for deer only as it is expencive. What most dont concider is that with High fencing also comes VET BILLS....Tennessee Law mandates that any animal in captivity be given thorough checkups and shots regularly and if the TWRA wished to enforce that it could quite easily. Just some info for ya there Bud.

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cam69conv,

TWRA can not remove deer from one farm and allow another farm to keep the deer on his land unless the deer were obtain illegally. TWRA has admitted in court that they can not stop any land owner from constructing a high fence and in so doing trapping native whitetail deer. Dozens of these places already exist and TWRA knows about them and their is nothing TWRA can do.

There is no law that requires animals to be given checkups and shots. If an animal needs medical attention, that's one thing but no one is trying to make farmers have their animals medicated and checked up.

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Not trying to start an argument with you Lynn but you really need to check on your Laws before you type. ALL states, under the fair treatment of captive animals act, REQUIRE annual to semiannual checkups on all FARMED animals. High fencing relegates to captivity and therefore falls under this mandate. Just because they dont DOESN'T mean that they cant enforce this. If they so wish it (and believe me they will as soon as they figure out how to get money from it) they will enforce these laws. Dont confuse the facts that just because they HAVNT doesnt mean they CANT. To be completely legal these places would have to obtain a HUNTING PRESERVE license to prevent any actions from the TWRA. Again check the laws not the word of mouth or the local newspaper.

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cam69conv,

Post the law you keep referring to so we can all see.

No one could enforce such a law even if there was one. You would cause more problems in trying to examine these wild animals than you could solve.

You can have whitetail deer in captivity without needing a preserve license and still be legal.

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So you know, Teneessee state code annotated classifies white-tailed deer as Class II wildlife.

Case No.1: Who owns the Deer?

"Tennessee Code Annotated, 1987 Replacement Volume, Title 70; 1992 Cumulative Supplement, 70-4-101"

"The ownership of and title to all forms of wildlife within the state, that are not lawful individual property, is declared to be in the state."

Lawful individual property would apply to someone who purchased farm raised deer from a "deer rancher", and could prove it. Other than that, the deer belong to the Great State of Tennessee!!

The deer belong to the people of the state of TN Wrong, my friend, dead wrong.

Case #2: Is fencing legal?

70-4-413. Private wildlife preserves - Hunting.

"(a) It is unlawful for any person to operate a private wildlife preserve for the purpose of propagating or hunting, or both, any class of wildlife reared in captivity unless that person obtains the appropriate permit and operates such private wildlife preserve in accordance with the rules and regulations promulgated by the commission."

The height of fences in tennessee code is not necessarily restricted (In my very limited research), other than requirements of "At Least 4 and 1/2 feet from the ground." However, whenever you eliminate the wild animals ability to roam freely, it is no doubt a captive animal, subject to 70-4-413.

So to state my opinion, which has been generated from the FACTS of law above, you cannot legally captivate for the purpose of propogation ("Managing your herd, as you put it) or hunting without a permit. As far as annual or semi-annual veteranary check-ups on farmed, animals, i dont really see how that would apply, because it would be illegal to "have whitetail deer in captivity" in the first place. If you get the permit, and you decide to start a private game preserve (I doubt that the State will allow you to do it with their animals, so you would have to purchase your own), rest assured once again my friend, that the state will inspect your operation frequently and require you to test for diseases common to these types of operations, and will take legal action against you for failing to do so.

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Thanks Big.....I have been having problems with my searches for the specific laws. I need to reformat this infernal machine yet AGAIN.... But I knew they were there as I was born and raised in Tennessee and had researched several years ago on that very same subject because I was thinking about fencing off about 900 acres and running a deer ranch. Till I got into all the little details and realized it was gonna be 5 to 7 years before I would see ANY return on my money because I couldnt (trap) the deer already there for one and for 2 as Big stated there are all kinds of government affiliations with thier hands out and thier noses in. Vets....Proper treatment....all that kinna stuff. And I do believe you can even find a SMALL bit of this in your Hunting guide book under trapping I believe....Cant remember the exact phrasing but I seem to remember it stateing quite plainly that trapping wild game for the purpose of sale or as pets is prohibited. High fencing constitutes TRAPPING. So now...Big Posted the LAW that I was referring to. Hope that helped...Thanks again Big

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BigCallin,

Whitetail deer and all wildlife in TN belong to all of the people of the state. TN Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA) owns no wildlife and only manages the wildlife for the people.

Whitetail deer are not in class II but actually is class IV.

Feel free to post again when you have something ACCURATE to report.

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cam69conv,

Were you able to find the law that you keep referring to which as you stated :REQUIRE annual to semiannual checkups on all FARMED animals?

The trapping of whitetail deer has been legal for at least a decade in TN. Many wealthy land owners have done so and more are doing it all the time. One enclosure has estimated that they have trapped behind high fence 250 to 300 wild native whitetail deer and TWRA has admitted in COURT that they have allowed this to happen.

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