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Tipping your guide?

I have booked an elk hunt in Montana for 07. Some web sites mention tipping your cooks and guides and others mention nothing of it. I do lots of offshore fishing and when we do book a charter instead of going ourselves, tipping is a standard 15-20%. I have no problem with it. This is my first guided hunting trip and wanted to know the deal with tipping on hunting trips. Thanks for the input.

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Tipping your guide?

SChunt, Welcome to BGH.
I hope you have a great hunt in Montana in 07. Hopefully some guides will chime in and help with your question.

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Tipping your guide?

Anyone have any information that can help me out? Thanks

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Tipping your guide?

there is a great arcticle on it in one of the smaller bowhunting mags i got this month. they say to do it at the usualy 15-20% but they mention things like not trading things of no value and hanging it over their heads. had some cases of even bribing, thats a easy one. my policy with tipping in general is if they do a good job they get an ok yip, losey job terrible tip and a great job they get a great tip and i mention to there boss what a great job they do. but thats just me.

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Tipping your guide?

Yes! Yes! Yes! Tip your guides.

I've guided two different seasons. In Alaska in 01 and in Northern Idaho last year. It might seem like it's a glamorous and exciting deal, but it's a job, and, at least in my experience, outfitters can be some hard SOBs to work for.

I had a client last year that swore to me he would do whatever it took, legally, to get an elk. We covered an average of 20 miles per day trying to get him on elk. The first elk I got him near was bugling from less than 100 yds out. He swore to me he was convinced that it was another hunter, and we should move somewhere else. I insisted we stay put, but he got up and started walking back to the horses. Mr. Bull took off.

Second elk I had him on we rode up through some nasty deadfall, making a lot of noise with the horses moving through it. He insisted we were scaring the elk off (large four legged animals moving through brush 50 miles from the nearest road do NOT scare elk....). We stopped below the crest and crawled to the top where I had seen a lot of sign before the season started. It took us 30 minutes to crawl 100 yds. He got tired and started yelling at me. A nice 6x6 jumped out of the brush right where I told him it would be and headed for the high country. Blown shot #2, since he had his rifle slung, where I had told him not to do so.

So, give your guide he benefit of the doubt, and do what he says. If you've been on a dozen SUCCESSFUL hunts and he says something you know is wrong, call him on it, but otherwise give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Don't whine at how hard it is physically. He's getting up before you, saddling horses, making sure you're up, and have eaten, walking all the country you are, and probably going to bed after you. If it was easy, they'd call it shooting, not hunting.

Tip him. Recognize that the guides are probably getting paid poorly, if at all (I have yet to be paid by the outfitter I worked for last year.), and are working their butts off to give you the hunt you paid good money for. There are lots of jerkwads working as guides, but most are hinest, hardworking college kids or family men with bills to pay. Show them your appreciation.

P.S. I will never guide for an outfitter again.

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If your guide goes the extra mile to get your animal. It would be deserving of a tip.
If he/she's is just getting you into an area that has some critters. I would say that you already paid for that when you hired them.
There are also the guides that charge the extra to get you a trophy sized critter. Well, you already paid the extra for the service and when you get one, they want a tip too. If you don't tip your an ass. If you do tip your an ass, you already paid for it.
As far as a percentage. 15 to 20% more of a fee that is already outragious. It's your money.
The more money you give these guys. The more they're going to want. There won't be any end to it. Let them charge what they think it's worth and leave it at that.
If your willing to pay the price. That's your affair. If it comes out that the average hunter can't justify the cost. They'll have to hold with their exclusive clients and except the fact that their greed is screwing up a right that should be available to everyone

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Here's an old Montana guides perspective on this. Please, tip your guide. When I was guiding in the early 90's (in Montana), a new guide was paid $20.00 a day. That's not a typo, $20.00 a DAY. The experienced guides were paid up to $50.00 a day. We relied on tips to pay the bills, so we worked our butts off for our clients. The outfitter was the guy who made the real money, the guide was just contract labor. In Montana, a guide must be employed by an outfitter. I guess in other states the outfitter is more of a booking agent, and guides can freelance and demand what money they want for an animal or a hunt but that's not the case here. Regardless of the hunt package, a tip of $200.00 for a hunt was the average. I had some clients who didn't tip at all, and I won't lie it ticked me off. When you put in average day of 18 hours, you expect to be compensated accordingly. Luckily, the outfitter would always make sure we got something if this happened. My best tip was $650.00, that was from a group of 6 guys. They got 6 nice mulies, and 5 elk. One was a last-day, last hour elk, and when all was said and done I had put in 48 hours without a even a nap. (return trip to camp to get packhorses, pack out elk, transport to ranch, etc.) Another memorable tip was from 2 great guys from Kansas. I had been in the mountains for about 5 weeks, and they gave me a cooler full of pop, candy bars, and snacks before they left. You don't get that stuff in the mountains very often and it was really great to get it then. they also gave me a modest tip, but the cooler of goodies was worth alot more to me at the time. Have a great trip and good hunting!

Carl

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Yes...Tip!

I say definately tip your guide, now depending on how hard he works for you would determine what % he would get. I know guys who have gone guided and didn't get anything and still tipped their guides 20-25% because he aorked his tale off for the clients. Even going guided doesn't garuntee you get something.

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Tipping your guide?

I would say 15-20% is a good tip but it also depends on how hard they are working for you too

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Thanks for the posts. Bullelk34, I appreciate you giving us a inside view on this, Thanks!

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