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tip info needed

Leaving in a day for my first hunt. It's a Plains Game budget package. Will you guys tell what you did for tips? I don't want to be a cheapy, but it is a budget hunt (Under $4000)and I ain't rich, but insist on being fair or a little more. Suggestions?? please and thanks.

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No personal experience

I don't have personal experience in this as I have never paid for a hunt but, I have read several articles (I believe one was on this site) that state tips for hunts are comperable to any other tip.  First, tips are earned.  Secondly, if your guide/outfitter deserves a tip it is usually 10-20% of the hunt cost (that you pay them).

Good luck on your hunt!

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Best of luck to you!  We'll

Best of luck to you!  We'll be hoping for some great stories and photos upon your return!!!

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a lot depends on where you

a lot depends on where you hunt. in namibia, some places have mostly european hunters, who tip little to nothing.  the PH/owners i have hunted with were grateful for $200.00.  there is no fixed amount.  enjoy your hunt and see how you feel at the end of it. 

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Tipping is subjective and

Tipping is subjective and sometimes can fuel heated debate on hunting forums.  I have heard of some hunters tipping enourmous amounts and then, as previously stated, that European hunters not tipping or tipping very little.

I don't think if the outfitter is your guide that they should receive a tip unless they really go beyond what you contracted for.  if it is a guide other than the outfitter I would look at what he did for me.  Did his performance really enhance my hunt experience or did he just do a job?  I don't feel that a tip should be expected but should be earned.  People tell sob stories about how guides don't earn that much and really depend on the tips.  Well, their job choice is not really my problem.  The outfitter should pay them a fair salary instead of depending on tips.

I think I'd ask the outfitter up front what is expected and add that into the price and then decide if the cost of the hunt is really a budget hunt or not.

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I am not sure I agree with

I am not sure I agree with you on all that. Yes, tips should be earned. But I think in most cases the guides bust their butts to get their clients a shot at an animal. I would say that in most cases a tip is in order. If your guide does not work hard to get you a shot, has a bad attitude, makes your experience less than it could be or does not provide you with whatever was agreed upon before going on the hunt, than in no way should you tip them. But I think that this is an exception to the rule. I have also heard that tipping for hunts is on par with tipping for food service... 10-15%. 

On a different note, I have heard that you should not tip a guide with gear for the most part. A guide can only use one or two knives for all his duties, so when he receives 6 knife sets through out the course of the season, he isn't necessarily enthralled. 

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I agree with you regarding

I agree with you regarding tipping with gear.  Sounds like a cheap way of tipping anyway.

Tipping is an interesting subject. Why do we tip some people and not others?  When i go to McDonalds and I am greeted by the cashier who pleasantly takes and brings my order I don't even think of tipping them.  The same with my auto mechanic or the sales person at Cabela's that assists me with my purchase so why do we tip guides?

Where is that line on who to tip and who not tip and why?

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I personally think that this

I personally think that this tipping thing can get way out of hand and real quick.  I read one time that on a guided hunt you should tip your guide, the cook, wrangler if horses are used, and anyone else that just happens to be in the camp that the outfitter provides.  They said that the tips should be anywhere from $100.00 up to $200.00 and then 15%-20% to the guide that took you out. 

Now this may be fine for the hunter that can afford an extra $5,000.00 just for tips but it is getting out of hand.  For most of us the base price of a real hunt such as brown bear, goats, and sheep is to the point that we have to save for quite a while just to go on that hunt.  Not to mention the taxidermy fees and traveling expences that we have to foot.  So a hunt at they advertise at $15,000 can soon double in size quite quickly. 

I do have a friend that did work for a sheep outfitter in Alaska and he worked for free to trade off his time for a sheep hunt.  Now should he be tipped or not?  He is working there on his own free will and is doing the work as a trade.  He never did expect a tip and really didn't want one. 

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Link to a good article

I sent this to alaska6.5hunter when he originally posted this question: http://www.jesseshunting.com/articles/hunting/category14/196.html

I think it is a good write-up that breaks down a couple of situations that the author has dealt with and how his tipping was determined.

I agree with you guys, the price of the hunt + tags + lisences + travel + temporary lodging can put a serious damper in a guy's wallet.  Then add on to all that $100 - $500 in tips...

Here in San Diego, we have a lot of sport fishing operations and on top of the price to go fishing, you are expected to tip the deckhands.  On my first ever trip several years ago, I won the jackpot for an albacore that I caught.  I was so excited that the jackpot $ was more than I had spent on the trip and then some of the other guys that were on the trip with me, told me that it is customary to give the jackpot $ to the crew as a tip!  I fell in to the peer pressure and gave them half!

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gatorfan, that was an

gatorfan, that was an excellent you supplied. I enjoyed the story about Wild William and I am amazed that a guide would treat someone like he did the author.  My mountain goat hunt was excellent, but if I have one bit of criticism is that the outfitter/guide didn't listen to me.  I was very clear and explicit from the start that the mountain goat was my primary quarry and I would not consider taking a black bear or mule deer, both of which I had tags for, until I closed the deal on the mountain goat.  However, he tried to convince me to take a dink, albeit, legal, mule deer and a black bear.  Granted the black bear was really nice but had I given in to the pressure to take it, we would not have gotten my mountain goat that day.

Would that have just delayed me from getting a goat?  Who knows, but it I could have been skunked on the goat if I listened to him.  Fortunately, I am old enough to know what I want and to stand up for it.

As in any business, listen to your customer.

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