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Which is a better choice, the 17 HMR or 22 WMR? I am planning on doing some squirrel hunting and maybe some occasional fox or coyote hunting as well. I can't make my mind up as to which one to get. Is it true that the 22 Mag is a better gun up to 100 yds? From what i have been reading, this is relatively true. Can anyone give me some insight? Thanks.

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I've never used a 17HMR but still have a 22 mag. One of the things to concider is that the 17 is a fairly new cartridge, that may well be around a long time. The 22 mag HAS been around a long time!

The 17 while probally a good cartridge, reminds me of the 5mm Rem Mag. Promoted as the greatest thing since sliced bread when it came out. It was going to run the 22mag off the block! Today there are a lot of 5mm rem rifles around but no ammo except maybe some collecter's.

The 22mag will do about what you want but it may be a better 50yd cartridge than a 100yd cartridge. It's draw back is ammo is more expensive that 22 LR's. I don't know the cost of 17 HMR's

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.22 mag is actually one of the few small caliber rounds that can penetrate body armor designed to stop handgun rounds. I guess that says a lot.

For foxes and coyotes best to go with either .220 Swift or .22-250.

Good Luck.

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How does the accuracy of the 22 Mag compare with the 22 LR and the 17 HMR?

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in my opinion the 17HRM is just too light a bullet, 17 grains compared to a 40 or 50 grain out of a 22 mag And the wind will blow the little fella all over the place compared to the 22 heavier bullets in both 22LR & the mag.
Accuracy wise, probably equal, in a windless setting.

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So say up to 100 yds, all three guns are equally accurate? Can anyone give me some grouping comparisons? Thanks

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People often ask what caliber is most accurate. While there are a few cartridges out there are more inherently accurate than others, it's just not that cut and dry. Accuracy is a very subjective thing. With a couple of decades of shooting various calibers and various firearms, and my experience has always been that the vast majority of guns and calibers are going to be as accurate as the shooter is. In fact depending on the distance, most guns and cartridges out there are capable of far better accuarcy than the people who are shooting them.

You need to ask yourself or demonstrate to yourself how well and accurate you can shoot either caliber.

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Great point. I am leaning towards the 17 HMR but i am wondering if it is going to be gone sometime in the near future. From what i have gathered, it is a very popular caliber. I hope i am happy with either of them. Next comes a scope. HaHa. Any suggestions under say $150? Thanks

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Lots of scopes to choose from. But suggesting one is not easy either. I have a couple bushnell trophy scopes I would sell cheap. But its always a case of whether they will fit the rifle or not. What type of rifle you thinking of getting the 17 cal in. I have a ruger 77-17 and love it. I found the bushnell scope didn't fit. the bolt just caught the eyepiece. I picked a burris fullfield II or something like that. More then 150 at least at the this gun shop. If your close to a wholesale sports or even Canadian tire with gun shop area you can find nice scopes for that caliber in that range.

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I think i am going to go with the Marlin 617. I am going with a higher end one though. I was thinking of Savage but they say that the accuracy of the Marlin is amazing. As far as scopes go, i have found a few nice scopes for around 100. I was looking at the Bushnell Banner Dusk and Dawn. I have no preference really. Just was looking for one around 100 bucks. Thanks for your help.

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If you're serious about using this new rifle on coyotes and foxes definitely go with the .22 Mag. The .17 is just too light for anything other than small game in my opinion.

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