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Those Pesky, Pesky Deer Dogs

Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Too funny Sage and J... Sage if you are seriously asking this question, The answer is, they are deer chasers. In some states (4 I believe) it is legal to use dogs to chase/drive deer. They kinna work like a good rabbit dog. They chase the deer and try to herd them toward the shooter.

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That's a good description of deer dogs. I would, however, equate them more to hemmoroids(pain in the rectum). Only difference is, hemmoroids don't usually last two months, while deer dogs around here do.

Location: Butte, MT
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I really have never known of deer dogs. So, people just turn them loose and they are trained to drive deer back toward a hunter in a stand or something... the way a cow dog herds cattle? Sounds like a workable method, but not the kind of hunting I've ever done.

And, to provide 2 cents, if they were on my property without permission, they wouldn't live long. Hell with 'em. Buzzards gotta eat. Really, the bottom line is, their owners should know better.

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It's a privelege to communicate with someone who hasn't had the experience of deer dog infringement. All I can say is that, if you enjoy the outdoors, and really look foward to deer hunting season in regards to getting up a tree stand, or hunting in a sportsmanlike way, then you are truly blessed if you don't have to contend with this nuissance. I wish I could come hunt with you. I am much less "gung-ho" about hunting this year, anyway, so it's not bothering me nearly as much as it has it has in the past.

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I was working on a tractor today, when I heard something getting close(and i'm almost deaf). A doe came running by me, within 10 feet, with her tongue hanging out. This was in my yard. The deer was way ahead of the dogs. In 5 minutes, I had a yard FULL of dogs. The deer and the dogs made it across the highway, and were lost for quite some time. I hope the "club" loses them forever.

Location: Choudrant, Louisiana
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I happen to live in one of the states that allow dogs for deer. My problem has never been with the dogs but rather the hunters(?) that chase the dogs and deer. When I was a kid, dog drives were very organized and fun, now days there seems to be only a race to see who can get the first shot. While I would not mind seeing an end to dog hunting, if we allow them to ban one form of hunting, where do we draw the line for the next item on the anti-hunting agenda?

Also, we now have tougher trespass laws than in the past, and this seems to have helped somewhat. But on the other side of this argument, trained dogs are considered valued property, and indescrimanate killing of these dogs could wind up with the shooter being jailed and/or fined substantially, even to the point of losing one's home.

And to the person that did not know about deer hunting with dogs, the way it is supposed to be done is that standers are placed along 3 sides of a block of timber or other land then the dogs are turned out on the 4th side and pushed into the property until they jump a deer. When the deer comes by a stander(hunter) he will attempt to shoot the deer if it is one that is legal or try to catch the dogs if is not one that you want to attempt to take. But that does not seem to be the way most of these people do it this day in time.

Location: Choudrant, Louisiana
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One other thing I would like to add, neither the deer nor the dogs can read posted signs or tell where a property line is. So it is not the dogs fault when they end up somewhere they are not wanted. The dogs do what they were bred and trained to do. I have even seen dogs run themselves to death because they would not quit the trail, this is where etheical hunters and dog owners are supposed to do what is right and ethical for both the animals and the non-hunters or maybe I should also say non-dog hunters.

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Pains in the ass is what they are. I hear the "dogs can't read" crap every year. I didn't start this post for argument, or friction, and don't want to see it go that way. However, if you were here like I am, you would realize that it's not simply a small issue, and we are subjected to it FAR too often. And, incidently, I am a regular member of the NRA, and donate to NRA-ILA. Hopefully, Hillary won't win, and our gun ownership rights will be safe for a little while longer. If these "clubs" would act a little better, it wouldn't be a problem.

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I like dogs and have had them most of my life. I will not give up hunting because someone else uses their dogs irresponsibly. Dogs are trained to perform many tasks. Some drug dealers use trained dogs to attack the police when they knock down the door. Some people train their dogs to fight other dogs to the death. Most dog owners don't intentionally put their dog in harms way,but some do. The dog owner is 100 percent responsible for the action of his / her dogs. If someone uses their dogs to run deer off my property when I paid for the land and pay taxes to keep it, it would not happen a second time. The responsibility falls on the dogs owner.

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Good post and good point, blackbear. I know it's not the dog's fault. I used to really enjoy coon hunting, and had a couple of excellent dogs, but to my knowlege, they never bothered a soul. And I kept up with them.

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