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Thompson Encore Cracked Stock

My brother and I both have Thompson Encores with a couple barrels each.  I went with the stainless steel setup and the synthetic stocks while my brother went with blued barrels and walnut stocks.  I have barrels in .308 and .223, and he has .280, .22-250, and .22 Hornet.  While I have not had any issues with my setup, my brother started having accuracy issues with his a few years ago.  Of all the times to start, he first noticed it during deer season when he missed gimme shots on two different animals with his .280.  He finished out the season using a different gun, but after the season, he and my dad tried to figure out the issue with that barrel.  

They started by checking if the gun was still sighted in, even though that had checked that before the season.  They played around with that thinking that the scope was off, but as soon as they thought they had it sighted in, their point of impact would change.  Next, they thought the either the scope base or the scope mounts were loose.  After completely re-mounting the scope base, scope mounts, and scope, they went back to sighting it in.  Again, the same thing was happening where they thought they had it sighted in only to have the point of impact change again.  They did wait for the barrel to cool between shoots, they used proper cleaning techniques, and it did not seem to matter which type of ammo they put through the gun.  After doing some more head scratching, they decided that the forend was a little warped, so they sanded out the inside of the forend a bit.  After more shooting and cursing, they were still having the same problem with the point of impact moving.  Now thoroughly frustrated and completely stumped, this barrel got put in the closet and left untouched for quite a while.  

In the meantime, my brother did continue to use his .22-250 and .22 Hornet on his Encore setup without any issues for another year or so.  Finally, about a month ago, his .22 Hornet started having the same issues that he was having with the .280 barrel.  Thinking that he simply got bad barrels, he was ready to through the entire setup in the trash.  Before giving up completely, I convinced my brother that I should shoot his barrels on my setup.  Last week, my dad and I finally tested this out.  After my dad and I both put a couple shots through his .280 barrel on my Encore receiver.  Between the two of us shooting, all of our shots grouped nicely, and we were able to sight it in fine.  

After closer inspection of his walnut buttstock, we found tiny crack that ran the entire length of the stock.  We think that this crack has been growing over time, and that it was torquing the gun when fired.  The heaviest recoil caliber showed symptoms first until the stock weakened enough to show the same symptoms shooting the .22 Hornet.  

We are all happy that we finally have it figured out, but it was a ridiculously frustrating experience.  My brother is going to get a new Encore Pro Hunter buttstock and forend to fix the problem.  I know this was an unnecessarily long story, but has anybody else had a similar experience, particularly with the Encore setup?

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I don't know squat about

I don't know squat about Encore's. Does it have a bolt behinb the reciever at the top? I know a lot of bolt actions have split there, inletting to tight!

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Encores are a break action

Encores are a break action single shot setup.  Something in the buttstock/receiver might have been too tight from factory that caused the crack, or the wood might have been weak to begin with, or my brother might have knocked the stock hard sometime and didn't even realize it, or some combination.

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I have a TC encore with a

I have a TC encore with a couple of barrels, I have the blued on walnut. I first got this with the 50cal muzzle loader and have since added a 7mm-08. My plan is to get a 45-70 and a 12ga in the neer furture. 

Now about the stock. When I first took it out to sight in the 50cal I was dissapointed with the groups, all I could get was about a 6" group at a 100 yards and my son was shooting a 3" group out of his omega. The thing is I shoot better than he does so I was having a hard time with it. When I got home and was cleaning up I noticed a crack right where the stock mounted to the action on the under side. I got on the phone and explained it to the lady at tc and in a week had another stock that would shoot 2" groups and got a 5X5 elk that year at 176 yards.

In 2011 I put the 7mm-08 on it and went after an Ibex in the florida mt in southwestern NM. Got him and had to use the rifle as a crutch to get off that ugly rock with my Ibex on my back. after i got home and was cleaning it I found a crack in the same place as the first one so I ordered a thumbhole laminante stock and forend. 

I dont know what the problem is but I like the rifle and It is now more accurite with this stock. with the 7-08 its shooting sub moa and with the 50 muzzle loader Im getting about 1.5 to 2" groups.

Went a little long here sorry

James

 

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I appreciate this information

I appreciate this information from everyone, I have an encore with pistol barrel now and have considered adding a stock and rifle barrel. This will help with selection when I do.

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Sounds like to tight

Sounds like to tight inletting. Laminate stock will fix that! laminate stock's are heavier though too.

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Sounds like I should have

Sounds like I should have posted this up sooner, and you guys could have pointed me in the right direction sooner. That would have saved lots of frustration.

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