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Another good point you've made that I forgot to mention. You said that the military was experimenting with 300 win mags (I'll just assume you know what you are talking about here), and that the europeans are looking at the 338 lapua (although I did read that the 300's and 338's weren't looked too highly upon as good sniper rounds b/c some snipers were developing flinches due to the recoil). Neither are super short mags. I imagine that, for military purposes, using heavier bullets has its advantages being that they have to use full metal jackets. A 243 super mag solid may not work as well as a 300 win mag for sniping. You need bigger holes if you can't have expansion. Thus, one of the reasons the military now uses 50 cals for long range sniping.

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Sniper rifles use BTHP match ammo not full metal jackets. They did use FMJ match ammo for many years though.

As for me, the reason I went with the 7WSM for my long range target rifle is it has a powder capacity similar to the .280 Rem and 7mm Rem Mag. It is also shorter so I get a little longer bore in same length of barrel. This will give me a slight gain in velocity that won't cost me anything.

For most shooters in most situations, the short mags don't offer any advantage at all. In fact, many shooters don't even need a magnum of any kind.

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Are the BTHP match bullets solid as well? I just assume they are do to international regulations.

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No they're a hollow point that serves no other purpose but external ballistics. It was specifically made for punching paper.

The British Royal Marines (some of the best snipers in the world) are curently using the 338 Lapua.

Generally police snipers use what the military uses. There are exceptions but that vast majority of police snipers are shooting the 308 or 223 (both NATO approved). Police are also pretty quick to dump something in favor of a better "man stopper" ex: 9mm to 40 cals to 45's. The 308 gets it done pretty well for the ranges we shoot.

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The current US sniper ammo uses the 175gr Sierra MatchKing loaded as the M-118LR.

There was a review of the Hague Convention, this is the one that concerns weapons, and it was determined that the BTHP match bullets are not specifically designed to be mushrooming or frangible and can be allowed on the battelfield.

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Thanks, that answered my next question. Thumbs up

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JCalhoun wrote:
The current US sniper ammo uses the 175gr Sierra MatchKing loaded as the M-118LR.

There was a review of the Hague Convention, this is the one that concerns weapons, and it was determined that the BTHP match bullets are not specifically designed to be mushrooming or frangible and can be allowed on the battelfield.

So, there are rules on what type of bullets you can use in battle? Bullets that mushroom can't be used?

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There have been rules for a long long time. As I understood it, mushrooming bullets create to much damage. Imagine that. Just kill the enemy, don't damage him! It was to hard to repair soldiers damaged to badly by mushrooming bullets. Ain't war a civilized thing?

You have heard of the Geneva Convention? That's the one!

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The military is using regualr HP's with the war on terror. Apparently the terroists are not members of the Hauge convention. The major it of it is still plain old ball ammo tho.

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Learn something every day.

Of course it makes perfect sense to me. You can use huge bombs dropped from the air, guided missles, mortars, mines, but you can't use bullets that expand. Yeah, makes perfect sense - NOT!

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