72 replies [Last post]
Offline
Location: Missouri/Arkansas
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 891
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

By Emily Bazar, USA TODAY
Thu Dec 1, 6:45 AM ET

In city halls and public parks across the country, stories-high evergreens are being erected and decked with glowing lights and sparkling ornaments.

They look - and smell - like Christmas trees. But not so fast.

In places as varied as Chicago, Reno and Prairie Village, Kan., they're "holiday" trees. In other spots, such as Atlanta, they have no name at all.

This year, the tree-name game has sparked a backlash, with some Americans crying humbug and Christian groups threatening lawsuits over what they say is religious discrimination.

Perhaps the most heated debate is brewing in Boston. The city's Parks and Recreation Department ignited a furor when it advertised the lighting of a "Holiday Tree," scheduled for tonight.

People complained, and the Nova Scotia logger who donated the spruce told newspapers he'd rather feed the tree to a wood chipper than call it that. Said Boston Mayor Thomas Menino: "I consider this tree to be a Christmas tree."

Mathew Staver, president of Liberty Counsel, a legal group that focuses on religious issues, said the mayor's use of "Christmas tree" means there's no need to go to court over the issue. His group's Christmas campaign aims to stop what it views as religious censorship and "political correctness run amok." It is endorsed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

"It's like calling a menorah a candlestick," Staver said. "It's wrong. It's offensive. And it disenfranchises a large segment of the community."

This week in Washington, D.C., the "Capitol Holiday Tree" was renamed the "Capitol Christmas Tree" at the request of House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

It was called a Christmas tree until the mid-1990s, Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said. "The Speaker thought it was important to reflect what Americans call their trees, which are Christmas trees," he said.

Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said using the term "Christmas tree" excludes people of other faiths and backgrounds.

"I certainly don't need spiritual sustenance from the government," he said. "I get that in my church."

Respect for diversity is the most common reason given by those that use the term "holiday tree." In the town of Fishers, Ind., officials advertise the annual "tree lighting ceremony," without using the words "Christmas" or "holiday."

"We want to be sensitive to all ethnic backgrounds and religious beliefs," said Marc Steczyk, a town spokesman. "We're in the business of treating all people how they should be treated."

Offline
Location: Missouri/Arkansas
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 891
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

This is what every radical liberal mongoloid has been fantasizing about unleashing upon the free world. On the map of the U.S. I think it should be mandatory that there be a skull-and-crossbones symbol over California.

cowgal's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: Colorado
Joined: 03/10/2002
Posts: 1787
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

Why California? this is happening everywhere.

I don't even see California mentioned in this article. There are radicals everywhere, every state has them.

Right here in Colorado we had protests over - get this - Christmas carols being sung by church groups in the Denver Christmas parade! And until this year the church groups had been prohibited from participating. Or how about that the "holiday" decorations on public properties (like city and county buildings) could not have any Christian themes, like the nativity.

Pretty crazy if you ask me. Christmas is just that, about Christmas! Its not supposed to be just another holiday for crazy consumerism & spending!!!

Offline
Location: Missouri/Arkansas
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 891
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

Because California is a major hotspot for exactly this type of liberal extremism.

expatriate's picture
Offline
Location: Arizona
Joined: 10/26/2002
Posts: 3207
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

Funny how porn and explicit lyrics in rap music are protected by the liberals as first amendment. But then they say Christian expression needs to be stamped out as offensive.

Offline
Location: Missouri/Arkansas
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 891
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

Isn't that incredible?

Offline
Moderator
Location: Wa.
Joined: 03/31/2004
Posts: 1300
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

A very merry Christmas to all.

Offline
Moderator
Location: Florida,USA
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 1566
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

As far as I know the only religion that has a holiday at this time of the year that has a tree that represents anything are the Christians.
To me, I would think that a Muslim, Jew or Satanist would be offended for someone to try and insert a Tree into their respective symbolisms for their holidays that occur at this particular time of the year.

Its a Christian holiday and a Christian Symbol......by golly its a Christmas Tree !!

Offline
Moderator
Location: Wa.
Joined: 03/31/2004
Posts: 1300
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

God bless.

Offline
Location: AZ
Joined: 07/06/2004
Posts: 39
Stupidity of monolithic proportions
JTapia wrote:
As far as I know the only religion that has a holiday at this time of the year that has a tree that represents anything are the Christians.
To me, I would think that a Muslim, Jew or Satanist would be offended for someone to try and insert a Tree into their respective symbolisms for their holidays that occur at this particular time of the year.

Its a Christian holiday and a Christian Symbol......by golly its a Christmas Tree !!

some pagan religions have/had sacred trees and they decorated them at yule (christmas) but beyond that, yeah, it's pretty well associated with christinaity.

merry Christmas to everyone in this one nation, under God...and everywhere else

expatriate's picture
Offline
Location: Arizona
Joined: 10/26/2002
Posts: 3207
Stupidity of monolithic proportions

Check out the national flag of Lebanon -- a country that's 60 percent muslim:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/lb.html

Related Forum Threads You Might Like

ThreadThread StarterRepliesLast Updated
Stupidity at it's finestnumbnutz611/28/2011 13:07 pm
Join the Anti Peta group We Eat PETA FOR LUNCHelkslayer338406/23/2007 08:44 am
Any home blueing tips?hunter25505/15/2011 10:57 am
Dream Midwest Deer Huntjraley012/08/2008 11:19 am
Stupidity at it's finest....Ca_Vermonster712/18/2010 21:57 pm