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Stevens side by side shotgun questions

 

My granddad had a Steven’s side by side shotgun.  I thought I bought one just like it, but this one has two significant differences and I don’t like either one.  First, unlike Granddad’s gun, the safety comes on every time you close the action.  I MUCH prefer a safety that stays off unless you want it on.  Second, the forward trigger fires the LEFT barrel, and the rear trigger fires the RIGHT barrel.  This seems completely backwards to me and is not what I remember from granddads old trusted side by side. 

 

Has anyone else encountered a side by side where the forward trigger does not fire the right barrel?

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Heard of it but haven't seen it

I was recently reading an article that mentioned the front trigger firing the left barrel but can't remember what the article was in reference to.  I'll try to find it - hopefully I haven't tossed the mag yet (the Boss has been on me to discard when done).

I've got an old exposed hammer sideXside (first gun, wish it still worked); it's front trigger fires the right as you'd expect.  The few others that I've played with did also. 

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I have two very different

I have two very different side by sides. One is an old Baikal 16 with side hammers but as expected the front trigger does in fact fire the right barrell. The other is an old but still far newer 12 of some hardware store name or something but it as well fires the right barrell with the front trigger. It would be hard to get used to the opposite firing sequence. Especially with side hammers that you have to cock first and then possibly pull the wrong trigger based on the one that would normally coincide with that hammer.

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Hal Fast – what’s wrong with your old side by side?

Thanks guys.

 

Hal Fast – what’s wrong with your old side by side?  They are pretty easy to fix for the most part.  Maybe we can get her running again?

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Hum

For4 the past 25 or so years I've used nothing but SxS's. I haven't a clue which barrel fires first. Never gave it a though! I always figure if one barrel fires at a time I was good to go.

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it becomes obvious when you only have one barrel loaded!

Shooting trap we only load one shell at a time so it becomes obvious when you only have one barrel loaded and hear click instead of bang!  Same would hold true if you have a poor man's cape gun with one barrel loaded with shot and teh other with slug if you are hubnting for birds and bunnies with shot and deer or hogs with a slug load.  The wrong one going off would prove inconvenient or down right problematic !

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That sure is odd for the

That sure is odd for the front trigger to fire the left barrel Mike. Do you know what the barrels are choked? As for the auto-safety feature, pretty much all new hunting shotguns (vs some skeet, trap, or sporting clay models) have that type safety. Every time the action is opened, the safety comes on. Any competent gunsmith should be able to easily modify that for you. Personally, I like that feature on my hunting doubles though.

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What doubles????

 

TNDeerHunter:

What do you mean that you like that feature on your hunting doubles?  Have I missed you talking about your doubles?  Tell us more!  I hope to pick up my first double this week.

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Doubles

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TNDeerHunter:

What do you mean that you like that feature on your hunting doubles?  Have I missed you talking about your doubles?  Tell us more!  I hope to pick up my first double this week.  

Hey Mike,

Since pretty much all I hunt with my doubles is small game, I do not mind the fact that they automatically go to safe when I break it to reload. I'm not figuring to have to stop a charging squirrel (but one never knows :lol: ). If I was to use one for big game, specifically bear or boar, I'd see the usefullness of not having the safety reset itself upon reloading. I do actually own a Valmet 412S which is a combo 12ga/.308 that would work well for either bear over bait or hogs from stand or ground. I'd likely prefer non-auto reset for those purposes.

What type double are you looking to buy?  I used to have a pretty big collection of doubles but only have a few left after going through a rifle-buying frenzy some years back. I still own that Valmet with the combo barrels and also a set of double 12ga barrels, A Ruger Woodside O/U in 12ga, and a Browning BSS in 20ga.

 

                 

 

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12 gauge and 308 sounds sweet

Ahhh when I read "hunting double" my mind immediately went to double rifle. 

I like almost anything that goes bang, but I have never owned an over / under gun.

The twelve gauge and 308 combination sounds just about ideal for my rifle / shotgun combination though since all my shtguns but my recently acquired sixteen gauge are twelves and nearly all my rifles are in 308.

If you ever decide to sell it, please let me know.

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double rifles

groovy mike wrote:

Ahhh when I read "hunting double" my mind immediately went to double rifle. 

I like almost anything that goes bang, but I have never owned an over / under gun.

The twelve gauge and 308 combination sounds just about ideal for my rifle / shotgun combination though since all my shtguns but my recently acquired sixteen gauge are twelves and nearly all my rifles are in 308.

If you ever decide to sell it, please let me know.

Mike,

  I am actually in the process of looking at double rifles in 9.3x72. I've seen a couple I like a Verney Carron O/U and Sabatti S/S. I probably would have already ordered one if a nice hunt opportunity had not just arisen (spring bear in Idaho). My interest is still pretty high, however, and when I return I may still be shopping and then selling an EAA O/U in .308 along with the Valmet 12/.308 & 12/12 to be able to afford one.

Ed                                               here they are: 

  http://www.biggamehunt.net/galleries/tndeerhunter/couple-different-rifles

      

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