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Can we ban Lynn already and move on to some real adult discussions about hunting. I'm tired of amateur hour. Thanks.

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halvtaz wrote:
Lynn, You are once again giving out misinformation.
You stated the following earlier and I will give you some corrections on it. "You may not consider shooting animals behind a high fence as hunting but state wildlife agencies do. Many states have areas that are high fenced for security reasons or for whatever reason for different things such as military bases where they allow hunting. These are managed by state wildlife agencies."

The hunting areas on a military installation are not manged by the state wildlife agency. They just have oversite to ensure that all laws and rules are followed. The wildlife and land management is under the control the the installation commander who delegates it down to other agencies to manage. Here is a portion of the reg on military installations.

The Commanding General is responsible for outdoor recreation, wildlife and fisheries management, and the
hunting and fishing programs at Fort Campbell. He has delegated management authority for these programs to the
Garrison Commander. The Commanding General retains the exclusive approval authority for use of normally
restricted areas for recreational purposes.
b. The Garrison Commander has delegated the authority to plan and supervise the recreational aspects of the
outdoor recreation and hunting and fishing programs in accordance with the provisions of AR 215-1 to the Director,
Community Activities Business Center (CABC). The Chief, Recreation Division, CABC is the appeal authority for
confiscated and/or revoked permits. The Director, CABC has further delegated authorities as follows:
(1) The hunting and fishing program is administered through Outdoor Recreation of the Recreation Division
(RD). The Director, Outdoor Recreation serves as the approving official for all requests by handicapped hunters for
special hunting considerations.
(2) Outdoor Recreation will perform the administrative functions necessary to assign hunters, fishermen, and
other outdoor recreation participants to the rear area of Fort Campbell. The Outdoor Recreation Director is
responsible for coordinating the recreational aspects of the rear area. The Director is authorized by the Garrison
Commander to suspend and/or revoke hunting and fishing and outdoor recreation permits for violations of the
policies and/or procedures prescribed in this circular. The Director may be contacted at (270) 798-2175.
c. The Garrison Commander has delegated the authority to plan, coordinate, and implement fish and wildlife
management in accordance with AR 200-3 and the Integrated Natural Resources Management Plan to the Director
of Public Works. The Director of Public Works has further delegated the responsibility for fish and wildlife
management to the Conservation Branch. The Fish and Wildlife Program Coordinator may be contacted at (270)
798-9855/956-2738.
d. The Garrison Commander has delegated authority to the Provost Marshal as the Chief of the Game Wardens
for enforcement of hunting and fishing laws and regulations, and for military, federal, state and local police support
in the rear area of Fort Campbell. Game Wardens/Law Enforcement personnel may be contacted at (731)431-7606
(Lead Officer).
e. The Garrison Commander has delegated authority to DPTM, Range Division Chief, to release training areas
for outdoor recreational use.
1-4. Eligibility

Pursuant to the Sikes Act (16 USC 670a-f), the Commanding General has authorized members of the general public
limited access to the Fort Campbell Military Reservation for the purposes of outdoor recreation activities, to include
hunting and fishing under the terms of the Integrated Natural Resources Management Plan. Authorized patrons are
set forth in AR 215-1
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halvtaz,

Yeah, it's kind of like Land owners that allow hunting on their property, the land owners have certain rules and the state wildlife agencies make sure the laws regarding the wildlife are followed.

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FL-CRACKER wrote:
Can we ban Lynn already and move on to some real adult discussions about hunting. I'm tired of amateur hour. Thanks.

FL-CRACKER,

If you ban me, this site will be almost dead, plus you won't have anyone to bully.

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Oh my God! This is a total waste of time! Lynn, we all know that shooting a deer in a pen would not be a rewarding, quality hunting experience. That is what people believe is happening in all high-fence operations. They have watched the Jimmy Houston hunting video one too many times and have made up their minds.

My family owns 2,000 acres in Texas, high-fenced on two of four sides. The highway boundary was high-fenced 40 years ago by Texas DOT. Another side fenced by the ranch owner next door. Many of our fellow hunters will blast me for hunting the ranch (owned for 4 generations) and accuse me of shooting deer in a pen. I enjoy hunting the 7 species of exotics that wander through and especially enjoy the opportunity to see a big-ole Texas whitetail buck every now and then. The deer are as wild as they are anywhere I have seen on private property. Fair chase? I know it is not a "canned hunt", it is legal, I enjoy it, and ya know.... I dont have to justify or defend my position. Any hunter that say's they would pass up the ability to hunt 2,000 acres of private property, owned by the family, for free is a liar. In a nutshell, Lynn- you will not change their minds, they believe they are better, and you are only going to confuse them with the facts.

Moderator, why would you let Lynn drag you into this? Lynn obvioulsy enjoys stirring controversy according the other posts. You guys are all drawing battle lines on issues you should be stupporting! Introducing new hunters? Hell yes! Great idea! Shouldnt we agree on that?

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Montana Dave,

I know what you mean by not being a rewarding, quality hunting experience. TN has areas that are so mismanaged by TWRA that there are 80 to 100 deer per square mile. I guess they need to put up a fence just to keep some of those deer out. Anyway, you are lucky if you don't hit a deer with your vehicle when you travel thru areas like that.

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