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Starter ammo for young shooter's

We see that question asked a lot on all the shooting sites. What dom I get my kid? We hear answer's from reasonable up to 30-06. That's a lot of cartridge for a youngster to start with. Well today I proved to myself that it doesn't have to be.

I got my bullet casting mold and sizing dies yeaterday and put some 180gr bullet's thru my 30-06 today that my 7 yr old, 50# grand duaghter could fire easily!

It for some reason never dawned on me how soft a large rifle could shoot with the right cast bullet's. And at under 100yds, these loads I shot today would probably do a good job on snall deer. 184gr bullets at around 1600-17oofps. And those are very light loads. I have no doubt I can get them to 2000fps and have data that will send them at over 2500fps.

Another good point is that when I got home clkeaning the rifle was a breeze. Couple wet patches with Hoppe's and a few dry patches. No copper fouling and not a trace of leading in the barrel! Whole set up to make the bullet's and size them cost me something around $60 or less including shipping from Midway.

I do have some questions about the loads out to a guy I know of that does a lot of bullet moulding and hunting with those loads. Anyone intrested I'll go into the bullet's and what my questions are deeper.

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Starter ammo for young shooter's

I don't cast bullets; however I thought much beyond ~1200fps (depending on barrel length) at the muzzle you start hitting the melting lead bullet problem. Do you put a gas check on your bullets?

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Not for hunting, but as a plinking load and to teach new shooters in full sized rifle cartridges, 10 grains of Red Dot works very very well as a low recoil subsonic load with cast or jacketed bullets.

  In a big case like 30-06 you will probably need some filler to make sure that the powder stays settled at the base of the case for the primer to ignite the powder correctly. 

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Hey Bit, gas checks! For

Hey Bit, gas checks!

For filler I use a quarter sheet of toilet paper tamped down on the powder.

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bitmasher wrote:
I don't cast bullets; however I thought much beyond ~1200fps (depending on barrel length) at the muzzle you start hitting the melting lead bullet problem. Do you put a gas check on your bullets?

I was under that same impression too.  But I only ever shot unjacketed lead out of a .45 ACP before.

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bitmasher wrote:
I don't cast bullets; however I thought much beyond ~1200fps (depending on barrel length) at the muzzle you start hitting the melting lead bullet problem. Do you put a gas check on your bullets?

 

I use 1500 fps as a rule of thumb.  Anything below that I don't bother to gas check, anything faster than 1500 I gas check and don't seem to have any problem with leading of barrels.

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I was reading a while back

I was reading a while back that it's to hard a bullet and undersize that leads the most, think that's what it was. Both will have a tendicity to slip in the groves and that causes leading. Of course to hot loads probably do also. In rifles I only have a 30 cal mould and I only use it with gas checks. I also cast 38 and 32 bullet's but no gas checks. Keep the velocity at 900fps or slower. The 30 cal I've run to right at 2000 fps with no problem. They seem to shoot better at under 2000fps.

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