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Location: Montana
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Spike Bulls?

Many areas here in Montana allow you to take only a spike bull on a general tag including the one I live in,due to the negative response I got from a fellow forum member I wanted to get the general opinion of this restriction and your opinion about shooting a spike.Every hunter i know here in Mt is more than happy to fill thier freezers with elk meat from a spike bull and I dont know why sombody would compare it to shooting a fawn or calf elk,a spike bull is a 2 year old elk and the best piece of meat you can get.I think its Obvious the person who made this comment has no experience hunting elk or he never would have made it.What do you guys think?

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see Captian O's wisdom below

Yeah, whatever NONYA. They couldn't pay me enough to shoot a little spike bull. That's just as bad, if not worse, than shooting a yearling whitetail buck. I don't care if many areas are spike only. Maybe next season you'll get yourself a nice calf to go with them.

And hey NONYA: you know what none of my guns will ever do at any point in their long lives? None of them will ever shoot a little spike bull!!!

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Location: Colorado
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I don't see anything inherently "wrong" with shooting a spike bull, but it wouldn't usually be my first choice. That may be because of the makeup of the herd here in Colorado, though.

In general--here at least, and most places that I'm aware of--the herd is slightly to extremely out of balance with too many cows per bull. As such, I would prefer to either shoot a cow or a mature bull. Let the spikes grow up to maturity.

On the other hand, if I lived in a spikes only area, and that was the tag I drew, I sure wouldn't hesitate to shoot one. I would assume that the wildlife managers know what they're doing and that shooting more spikes will help to balance the herd.

Oh, yeah, and I'd be happy to shoot a calf, too, if it was legal. I've done it before and they are absolutely the tenderest, sweetest elk meat you can get.

If somebody doesn't want to shoot spikes or calves, that's up to them. I don't have a problem with it. If somebody tries to tell me that it is somehow not "manly" to shoot a spike or a calf... well, let's just say that I won't waste my time worrying about that kind of foolishness.

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Location: Montana
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rgr that Don my mom shot a yearling cow on her cow tag about 3 years ago and it was the best piece of elk meat I have ever tasted,spike bulls are pretty close,just not as tender,now if we could geneticly engineer yearlings with big racks,the best of bolth worlds!

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Location: Missouri/Arkansas
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I didn't say it wasn't manly, I just made the point that I wouldn't do it, and that it's a waste of what could be a future trophy. Simple as that. If you let them grow up, they might just become serious trophies. I'm afraid our host has presented you with less than all the facts, Donmillion.

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the facts are that even if they matured into 7x7 record book bulls you would never shoot one legaly so if you want to shoot elk in these areas you shoot a spike bull and every elk hunter i know here in montana appreciates every elk they harvest,even if they have to shoot a "little spike bull" to do it.

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Well, I'm sure there are plenty of areas to shoot mature elk, so I'm not worrying about it too much.

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Location: Montana
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If you ever get a chance to hunt in montana we'll see if find a place to hunt mature elk,without a guide service,then you can start talking about hunting elk in Montana,until then speak what you know not what you think should be,it dosent work that way.

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What's wrong with using a guide service? Checked it all out on Google myself. They also feature do-it-yourself hunting in some areas.

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Location: Montana
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My point is that much of the land where people could get access in areas where you can shoot browtine bulls is now leased by outfitters and it is very difficult for the common person here(those who cant afford a $3000 elk hunt) to hunt an area with good elk and rules that allow you to hunt a bull with an over the counter tag.nothing wrong with it if you can afford it but you make it sound like we hunt spike only areas while we could be out hunting for mature bulls,like we wouldt prefer to hunt an area that has elk and you can shoot a good bull in.

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I didn't say any of that. All I said was it's better to let the elk grow up than kill them as little spike bulls.

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