Any of you guys hunting elk with 6mm or .25 caliber? Like to hear the details, yardage,bullet.ect...
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Sun, 2013-09-29 16:55
Sun, 2013-09-29 18:13#1
I'm not using those cals
But I did pick up my wife an elk tag. She will be using my Winchester mod 70 Featherweight 243 loaded with Federal Premium 100 gr Nosler Partitions. I'd feel comfortable with her taking a broadside lung shot out to 300 yards with these.
Sun, 2013-09-29 20:28#2
It is not recommended to hunt
It is not recommended to hunt elk with a rifle in .25 caliber or the 6mm's but it has been done. If you use one you need to use a well built bullet such as the Nosler Partition or a Barnes TSX and limit your range to what you can shoot very accurately, shoot for the lungs, and don't expect the bullet to punch through the shoulder bones.
I know a person that has killed elk with a .243 Winchester and has lost deer that have been shot with the same rifle and bullet combination at the same range.
Mon, 2013-09-30 09:23#3
Not a fan of the small
Not a fan of the small bullets for elk. I am of the old school 30 cal. size bullets such as 300 Win Mag, 308, 30-06 etc. Not saying a .243 or 6mm cannot put one down, just to much room for error and lose of an animal if the shot is not just right.
Mon, 2013-09-30 16:03#4
Wanted to affirm, I'm a proponent of a hefty enough caliber as well and have stated such before. In this case I believe for my wife shooting the 243, vs my -06 or 7 mag, with a Partition and being coached by me if a shot is presented is the right choice. She shoots the 243 well and I think at this time the other cals would sour her on shooting with the recoil. Also the mod 70 is a light handy rifle that fits her much better then the other rifles. For a youngster or a women with a good bullet and emphasis put on a broadside boiler room shot avoiding the shoulder bone it works. However, I do recommend 270 on up for elk for larger experienced hunters. Next year I hope to have her shooting our 270 AI.
Wed, 2013-10-02 02:32#5
I wouldn't hunt elk with a
I wouldn't hunt elk with a 6mm or .25 caliber either. But you're hearing of more and more guy/gals doing it. I know bullets have improved over the last 10 years but it just seems like too little bullet for that size animal.
Wed, 2013-10-02 12:49#6
Two things I see. Over the
Two things I see. Over the years, hunter's want to try shooting animals with smaller and smaller caliber's with lighter bullet's and they want to shoot farther and farther away.
Wed, 2013-10-02 13:13#7
My hunting partner has
My hunting partner has dropped two elk with her 7mm. Me, I will not chance it. My 30-06 does just fine.
Wed, 2013-10-02 13:20#8
I'm a little more blunt than
I'm a little more blunt than some. If you want to hunt elk. Use a recommended elk gun. If you can't handle it? Hunt for deer.
Wed, 2013-10-02 15:21#9
What would you really
What would you really consider a elk gun? I have read some magizine articles that say that anything smaller than a .338 won't work for elk, while others say to start with the .30 calibers. What about the .257 Weatherby ro .264 Winchester mag, both will bowl a elk over with no problems. I have shot elk with a handgun shooting 7mm bullets up to a .44 magnum and none of them went more than a couple of steps after they were hit.
A .243 Winchester will kill a elk like lightning, but it will also not do very much damage if it is hit in a heavy bone and the elk will either get away or die a long lingering death. The state of Colorado seams to think that the .243 is a good elk rifle or else they would put into the regulations that you need a minimum of a .30 caliber. So this is a old argument.
I don't like the idea of a father going out and buying his soon to be 12 year old a .243 with plans for elk steak on the table come winter just because his boy can't handle the recoil of a larger caliber rifle. That is one of the draw backs of letting younger hunters into the big game hunting field. Personally my first elk fell to the old trusty .30-06 shooting a 150 grain bullet. My last one fell to a .340 Weatherby mag shooting a 225 grain bullet, now that one that died when I shot it with the 06 was just as dead as the one with the .340 and I doubt that either of them knew what had hit them.
The key here is that if you plan on using a lighter caliber rifle to hunt elk with that you need to know how to place your shot where it will do the most damage and avoild the shots where you need deep penetration to reach the vitals. In other words take only broadside shots that only have to travel through the ribs and not a raking shot that has to travel though meat and bones to reach the vitals.
Wed, 2013-10-02 15:55#10
Good post Critter. To answer
Good post Critter. To answer your first sentence. 270 on up is where i'd consider a elk rifle to start. BUT I can't talk from experience cause I've never shot an elk.