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Significant changes to Colorado season structure

Ok, this is certain:
No more statewide muzzleloader tags for bulls or cow. It will be by GMU/DAU.
Unlimited antlerless archery tags will not be valid in List A units.
Muzzleloader cow tags will be list B if the unit is list B for rifle and archery.
3rd season is now 9 days
Nonres cow licenses are now $350
There will be a hybrid draw system for the major trophy units, specifically mentioned was unit 201. This will allow for 20% of the tags available for some units to be available for those with 5 or more preference points.

This is speculative, but will likely go through during the January meetings:
Unit 54 will become List B for cow licenses.

I'm not even sure I can remember the rest, but it is supposed to be sent to me with some other details. I'll keep ya'll posted

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Ex does the list B cow thing mean if you draw one you can still buy an OTC bull tag later? I know in past years I was bummed when I found out I couldn't buy an OTC bull tag when I had a cow muzzle statewide tag.

And again, thanks for helping with the info. That's a huge help.

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Thanks Ex, that's bought EXactly what I heard!

I am kinda liking the 20% random thing! I have just about enough points now, and was not going to keep banking them for much longer.

Never made sense to me that people that live in a GMU like 201, but did not have land of their own, would only be able to hunt for trophies in their home unit 2-3 times in an entire lifetime.

Now, I am going to aim high on my drawings after next season cool

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So yes, that's what I'm liking most about this. If you have a muzzy cow tag for a list b area, you can also have an OTC or leftover bull or either sex tag. I also like the extended 3rd season.
That $350 nonres cow tag might bite the DOW in the arse, but we'll see

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That will be a good change. I'll probably be buying more tags now and trying to get the wife to let me leave for a few more days without her nagging about it. You know even though I always applied for statewide I still hunt the same unit every year. I just mentally liked the idea I could hunt other units if I needed to for muzzle, but actually jumping around mid season isn't going to get you an elk for the most part.

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I say once again Exbio. is the go to guy for info.
Thanks....

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Preference Point Banking is back:

Preference Point Banking
In 2006, in an effort to remove preference points from the preference point “bank” and slow “preference point creep” (the phenomenon of an ever-increasing number of preference points necessary to draw certain limited licenses), regulations allowed applicants to use only that portion of their preference points (+1) necessary to draw a limited license. Although this method did not appear to significantly impact preference point creep and also added a greater degree of unpredictability to the draw system, it was generally a popular program and has been reinstated.

More on the Hybrid Draw System from some discussion minutes:
Hybrid Systems – Hybrid draws use a combination of 2 draw systems. Under a hybrid system, a portion of the licenses for specified huntcodes would be drawn (Draw A) using the current straight preference point system and a portion would be drawn (Draw B) using a system that allows access to applicants with less than the minimum number of points required for the straight preference point draw. Hybrid systems provide continuity to those highly vested in the preference point system but also allow access to high demand licenses for those with fewer points. Applicants at or above the point floor would have to declare which draw they wanted to enter for licenses at or above the draw trigger.
a. Hybrid Combinations – the types of draw systems to be used
i. Straight Preference Point + Random Draw
1. All applicants above the point floor would have equal likelihood of drawing a license in Draw B.
2. The random draw component would level the playing field for everyone above the point floor and provide a disincentive for building additional points for those Draw B applicants that only want to draw a high demand license.
ii. Straight Preference Point + Weighted Draw
1. Overall, applicants with more points would have a greater chance of drawing in Draw B but the odds of any particular applicant drawing is not only determined by their number of points but also by a random draw number. This makes the weighted draw somewhat more predictable than a random draw but much less predictable than a straight preference draw.
2. The weighted draw component would still provide some incentive for building points.
BGSS Pref Point & Draw System Strawman Alternatives.doc – 2/27/09 3
iii. Straight Preference Point + Names in Hat
1. Applicants with more points would have a greater chance of drawing in Draw B but depending on where the point floor is set and what kind of function is used, the increased odds of drawing with more points could be miniscule.
2. This system would probably require the most changes in the current draw program.
b. Hybrid Decision Points – necessary decisions needed no matter what combinations are used
i. What hybrid split should be used (i.e., % of licenses in Draw A; % of licenses in Draw B)?
1. The higher the percentage of licenses that go into Draw B, the more disenfranchised highly vested applicants will become.
2. The lower the percentage of licenses that go into Draw B, the more difficult it will be to split license numbers in huntcodes with small numbers of licenses.
3. A split of 80% Draw A:20% Draw B appears to provide a reasonable balance.
ii. What draw trigger should be used?
1. The purpose of a hybrid draw system is to provide potential access to high demand licenses for more hunters. There is little justification for including lower demand licenses in a hybrid draw because the straight preference point draw is working well for these licenses.
2. The draw trigger should address those high demand huntcodes that are inaccessible to most hunters within a reasonable amount of time. Generally these huntcodes are taking >8-10 preference points draw.
3. Should a hybrid draw exclude some huntcodes even if they are above the point floor (e.g., Ranching for Wildlife, PLO)?
4. The draw trigger should be determined by a three-year average ending with the 2009 limited license draw to ensure greater predictability in which hunts would be included in which draw system over time.
iii. How many preference points should hunters have to qualify for Draw B (the point floor)?
1. The lower the point floor, the more applicants will be in Draw B. Because the hybrid draw is primarily intended to address high demand licenses, it is reasonable that applicants should be well vested in the draw before they could qualify. Conversely, the amount of points needed to qualify for draw B should not be so high that only hunters that already well vested could ever apply.
2. A point floor of 5 points to qualify for Draw B appears to provide a reasonable balance.
c. Evaluation (Assumes 80:20 hybrid split, 10 point draw trigger, 5 point floor)
i. Access – 100% of hunt codes for hunters with 5 or more points
ii. Preference - >98% of huntcodes require <10>98% of huntcodes and addresses only high demand huntcodes.
v. Cons:
1. Preference point inflation in high demand hunt codes would be exacerbated because there would be fewer licenses in Draw A.
2. Penalizes hunters with high numbers of preference points because there would be fewer licenses in Draw A.
3. Makes the draw considerably more complicated and opens the door for more errors, problems, and accusations of impropriety.

So it looks like they will use the hybrid system for all deer, elk, bear and antelope units that require an average of 10 or more pref points, with 20% of the tags set aside in a random draw for those with 5 or more points.

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