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Goldbelt, this is a little off subject, but could you tell me what the hunting/fishing is like around Juneau? I am contemplating a move from POW island to Juneau for a job oppertunity but I have never been there. I don't have a lot of options for transportation by boat, don;t need one here to get to good hunting/fishing grounds, is there any good options in the immediate area?

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seAlaskahunter,
Fishing and hunting here is great in my opiniion. You have sitka black tail,moose,brown bear, very good black bear but not quite as good as you have on pow. If you get a safe skiff it opens many doors for you on the fishing side. Not as many streams as ou have in pow. Salmon and halibut is good. When I was a contractor I spent a fair amount of time there on pow putting in the highway guardrail all over pow so I had a chance to enjoy some of your stream fishing around thorne bay etc.

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Patrick. I just remembered of another gunsmith that does probably the best thought out conversion or breakdown 45-70 marlin. David Clay I'm not sure how to get a hold of him. I was going to get one made a while back. He seems to be working on a website if so it's taking him a long time as I just checked it for the first time in a year and a half and it still says under construction. It's supposed to be http://www.drccustomgunsights.com These are probably the best made.

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Thanks for the advice Goldbelt. It may sound silly to the nonsportsman but that is the biggest factor right now in my decision to move, not the job prospect. With the steelhead begining to run now it's going to be an even harder decision to make.

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SEAlaskaHunter,
I can relate to that. There is lot going on here I think you will like the hunting and fishing here.
there is a difference here in northern southeast that you won't hear many from here expound on as they want to keep it the way it is.

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One thing I haven't seen yet on this thread is this: how long does it take for a bear to get around to dying after a "fatal" wound? I haven't shot one firsthand yet, but a buddy of mine put several .338s through the engine room of a Brown and he still had to wait awhile. Sure, I can send the beast to Hell with a gun...but if he punches my ticket before he decides to catch the train, did I gain anything?

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Had to post this on principle. After I mentioned sending the beast to Hell I hit "submit" and looked up to see that it was my 666th post. Evil! I DID NOT MEAN TO DO THAT!

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Expatriate,
I can only attest for one brown bear. I hit it in the chest from the front as it was standing up facing me. I spun knocking a small branch off a tree as it fell. It moved very little and stayed still. During the skinning of the bear the 300 weatherby hit it dead in the heart . All that was left of the heart was about a 1/2" at the top. It was shot about 3 or four seconds after it stood up so it was still relaxed. I believe if it gets riled up before you shoot it could take a while to figure out it is dead.

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Of the couple I have been around that were shot I have never seen one just lay down and die. My first was the fastest to expire and even then it took a second shot. Bear are such an unpredictable animal after being wounded that it is tough to judge exactly how and when it will give up the ghost. I have seen them run off as if set on fire, I've seen them not even flich and just wander off, and the most intimidating off all I've seen a black bear charge and soak up lead as if it were going out of style before realizing it was dead, even with a good first shot.
I have always been told, and practice the stratagy of taking out the shoulders first so that it will be less likely to track a wounded bear into dense brush. Bear have such a thick fat layer and fur that even with a double lung shot it is difficlt to find a blood trail. Beating the brush for a dying bear has a pucker factor of 10+. A good rule of thumb is to wait for at least half an hour before tracking a bear even if you feel it was a solid hit.

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The one brown bear I have shot took 2 shots through the pump station with a 300 win mag before running in the alders. I waited for 45 minutes grabbed my rifle and went in after it.. Had a good blood trail. Less then 10 ft in front of me the alders started to shake and luckily the bear ran away from me into a clearing were she was finished off. Adrenaline definately takes over when tracking a wounded bear, but having a removable scope would have been nice, cause if she would have charged me, it would have been messy..
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