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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

This was an ongoing discussion at work last year and it has mixed feeling, what do you think?

Ok, I am from Indiana, where all we ever had when I lived there was an archery, ML, and shotgun season. Well I live in Tennessee now, and the rave here is rifles and all that, but the only rifles i have ever fired was a .22 and a .30-30. Anyhow, I had asked some of the guys, which would be best? My .50 cal or my smoothbore 12 ga. I had some guys tell me that my .50 cal would be better because I can get a further shot with it, but I also had some guys tell me that My shotgun would be better, because if I miss, I got more rounds, or if I shoot and the deer isnt dead yet I can finish them with another round. I intend to keep the shots at or less than 100 yards. What would you use? I have been just using my ML during ML and my gun come gun season, but last year I had a nice buck come out on me about 125 yards and i knew my shotgun couldn't get him, but with my ML, I might have had a chance.

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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

Inside 100yds - definitely a M/L. Your friends are right about rarely getting a second shot but, as you probably already do since you've been hunting with a smokepole already, you just have be more patient and do all that you can to make sure you don't need a second shot.

As for finishing them off - I don't think the reload time on a M/L would be more more than 30 sec. Call me cruel but my conscience is OK with that.

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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

Hello from Germany!

Here in Germany we don't have such kind of special gun seasons as in the USA. Here you can use any gun allowed by hunting law. And these are rifles, shotguns and ML. The only thing you must be aware of is that when using rifles the minimum 100 meter energy is reached from the bullet and that the cal. is the right one. No further regs. So I would prefer a ML because it is a rifle too, but has not the restrictions in energy and cal. And with a good ML and the right bullet you can shoot much more fare than with a shotgun.

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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

If it is a choice between a smooth bore shotgun or a MZ loader, , I would choose the MZ loader because of greater range capabilities. However, if you can afford a rifled bbl for the shotgun, it would be a toss-up. If you are patient and choose your shots, a quick follow up shoot is moot!

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If it is a choice between a smooth bore shotgun or a MZ loader, , I would choose the MZ loader because of greater range capabilities. However, if you can afford a rifled bbl for the shotgun, it would be a toss-up. If you are patient and choose your shots, a quick follow up shoot is moot!

My JC higgins was made in the 1950's, and the barrel wont come off. I have been thinkin about buying a rifled slug barrel for my 20 ga. single shot, but than again the more I think about it, I would just be as well using my ML. I am good with my open sights, but think maybe one day would like to get a scope. Just not sure though since I am used to the open sights. I was hunting with my cousin one time in Indiana, and he has a ML, similar to mine, and used open sights and took deer about 200 yds with sabots and 100 grain powder. He said he just puts the mark above their back about 4 inches. I know he can do it, because I was out there one time when he did it. I like to keep my shots less than 100 yards though because to me, it is more of a challenge, and also most of the time when you hit a deer with a slug from a shotgun, or ML, the deer are almost knocked down. My father in law took a doe last year with his Remington at 50 yards, and I was about 75 yards down from him in the woods. When he shot her, she literally fell over so hard I heard her hit the ground and she got up and ran and dropped about 20 yards to the right of me. I had her field dressed and ready to go by the time he got over to us. I think I will take the advice on the ML though. I hope this year to buy the conversion kit to fire the 209 primers. it currently uses the number 11 caps.

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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

Sellboth and get a good quality rifle and scope. Then you won't have a buck of a life time looking at you at 200 yards. You live in rifle country use a rifle! Yes

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Sellboth and get a good quality rifle and scope. Then you won't have a buck of a life time looking at you at 200 yards. You live in rifle country use a rifle! Yes

I may do that one day, but I really hate to sell them, because they are both good guns. I just got into muzzleloader hunting 4 years ago, but it has really grown to me. The smokepole I got is really good. I know it is about 15 years old, but thats ok. Just because its old doesn't mean it can't shoot. I mean there has came times I had thought about buying a .30/06 or something like that, but I hunt behind our house, and right across the woods there is a bunch of woods and there, and I dont wanna head out there with a rifle and take a shot that way and there be someone in those woods. maybe 400 yards between the woods and fields, but still too close for comfort for me. Until than I think I will stick with my ML and use it on the gun hunts. I had actually been thinkin about selling it and getting a new one, but I have to sell it than buy a gun that won't shoot anything I put in it. Maybe I will save some money and buy me a good scope to put on it.

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Shotgun Vs Muzzleloader: Which would you use and why?

Between a smoothbore shotgun and a muzleloader, I would choose the muzzleloader. Most muzzleloaders these days shoot out to 150 yards accurately. Although, my rifled-barrel shotgun will do the same. Therefore, I carry my shotgun during our gun season here in southern Michigan, in the event that I need a follow up shot.

The best consistent accuracy I've ever been able to squeeze out of a smoothbore shotgun was an Ithica Model 37 12 gauge out to 100 yards.

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