Please be kind but I was worndering what the big advantage to the short mags is? The only thing that I've really seen is that you get a shorter bolt throw for a follow up shot. Not trying to make anybody mad but I was taught to make a clean kill with one shot, and to be proficent with my rifle so if the situation does present it self for a follow shot you can still make it with confidence. Like I said not tring to get anybody going, just trying to be enlightened.
21 replies [Last post]
Mon, 2008-03-17 23:23
Tue, 2008-03-18 00:32#1
I currently use one and have shot all the short mags.
There really isn't anything to be enlightened about. They simply give you the same thing that already existed. In a shorter fatter case. With 7 to 10 percent less powder and in most instances a shorter barrel.
Actually they are a very good idea.
I've never heard the one about a quicker follow up shot but, I quess that could be the case. If it's a neccessity.
Tue, 2008-03-18 04:36#2
less recoil as well and a little bit better ballistically
Tue, 2008-03-18 12:57#3
What all the new calibers are all about (both long and short mags) is selling new firearms. There is not an animal out there that we don't already have atleast one great caliber for and all these new calibers don't fill any voids in the cartridge world. They sell guns and spark new excitement in the firearm industry. PS. I have a 300 rum as well and love it but it doesn't do anything another previous cartridge couldn't.
Tue, 2008-03-18 17:31#4
Short Mags .. Faster follow up shot because of shorter action ? Well, if less than a thousandth of a second could possible matter, and thats giving the benefit of the doubt to the short mag.
Less recoil ?/ Recoil measurement is a scientific formula. Nothing whatsoever to do with caliber, length of action, length of barrel or the girth of a cartridge.
ChesterGolf sums it up quite nicely.....marketing tools.........
Tue, 2008-03-18 18:42#5
Yep,... in most instances it's just "NEW TOYS" for bigger boys !
But in all reality hype to sell more guns,.. although the comment about better efficiency and less powder is true. The brass configuration and angle of the case neck improve the burn rate in a more efficient manner.
Tue, 2008-03-18 19:05#6
One of the reasons I went with a 7WSM for my target rifle is that you get magnum cartridge case capacity while gaining bore length. If you compare a WSM to a Win Mag and Rem Mag you'll see the WSM is about an inch shorter. This allows a longer bore in the same barrel length.
Wed, 2008-03-19 12:06#7
my .270wsm has better ballistics than the .270 win.
so when i was looking for a good medium size game gun the .270 wsm just seemed better than the .270 win especially after 200 yards.
And beside that i am old enough to know who jack occonnor is but not old enough to be stuck with his favorite round. lol
Wed, 2008-03-19 14:24#8
dont be knocking the 270 win......its a proven calibre!!
Wed, 2008-03-19 16:20#9
ain't knocking the old girl just stating why i sold the win and bought the wsm.
besides, my wife found me a copy of jack's book on sheep hunting. Boy, did he get to do some fantastics hunts.
Wed, 2008-03-19 17:17#10
I can't find a legitimate argument against someone selling their 270 win and buying a 270 wsm, that is what they wanted to do and more power to them
But I know a guy who has a 270 win and wants a 270 wsm, one for deer and one if he ever gets lucky on the Moose draw.
In my humble opinion that's about as wise and building your summer home at the end of your street
I would never want two firearms so ballistically close to each other