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Oh I totally agree Don. You know me by now. I've never condoned those long range shots on game. In fact I rarely ever get the chance to do any real quality varmit hunting anymore. Got a .220 Swift at the back of my gun safe that gets brought out a few times per year for some long range paper target shooting from a bench, that's about it. I just think that somehow some hunters today have gotten it in their heads that they need to take those long shots, and I just don't know where that idea comes from. I blame it all on TV and crafty marketing by optics, ammo, and rifle companies too.

You and ChesterGolf have spoken correctly. Thumbs up

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I told my neighbor that i passed on a buck at 430 yards. I told him it was just to far for me at that moment in time. He responded like i was stupid for passing up the buck.. That distance is a chip shot to him and he proceeded to brag about 630 yard shot he took. He forgot about telling me of the bear he missed at 300 yards last year. lol by the way i got the buck at 190 yards a couple of days later.

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Too many variables for me to consider every time I go hunting. I.ve passed up shots at under 100 yards because I just walked up a hill, out of shape and out of wind and the crosshair moving like a fiddlers elbow.
Now a nice rested shot over a stump, relaxed, no wind,broadside at 400 yards for example, wouldn't hesitate for a moment but conditions have to be perfect.

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One additional comment from me... Those of us who've been on this forum for a while have seen many postings from people who come and ask something along the lines of "what rifle can I get that can make a 400 yard shot?"

The answer is very simple: There is no rifle that can make a 400 yard shot; there are, however, some RIFLEMEN that can make a 400 yard shot.

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I might add to that that the best of them, the one's that do it right, are also fairly good balistition's. They truely understand the advantage of longer heavier bullet's as apposed to lighter bullet's and higher velocity. For those guy's, the heavier bullet win's every time.

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Well said Don. Thumbs up

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I am all about those 400 yard shots with the newest and biggest magnum in the from Cabelas that has been shot at least 5 times oh and those big egos . When I guided I sarcasticly liked this. I would certainly tell the person I could get closer and highly suggested it. Then I would bait their ego by saying I would never take such a shot but I don't own a RUM. And then ask them about recoil and does their shoulder hurt much?get them to thinking about flinching At 400 yard plus shot is not the easiest,,, throw in some wind and in MT we have been walking a while at altitude so short of breath. I can bet a couple of 20's that ,, that elk is the safest animal on the mountain. I don't get my hands bloody and do not have to pile an elk and horns on skitish horses (mules good horses bad) oh and still collect my money. When we get withen 200 250 yards I get nervous because that seems to be where most get wounded I would have to ck my notes but I have a feeling that it may be closer. Anyway a different view neener!

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Thumbs up I agree with denverd0n, it is the rifleman, not the rifle that can make the long distance shots. I have made shots out to 300+ yds many a times. But, I was always saure the conditions were in my favor for the shot. I would not take the shot if I wasn't sure I would make the kill. I would not reccommend a long shot for a novice shooter because they do not have the skill to ensure a kill. People need to realize their limitations and not try to make the "Hollywood" shot like.

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With that said, I know of no one that is truely capabile of making called long range shot's that is not very fussy about the rifle he does it with. While it is true that most anyone can connect at long range sometimes and some more reglarly than other's, the one's that do it intentionally do so only with a well tuned rifle and load, designed for just that, long range shooting. it is a combination of skill's and equipment.

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Don Fischer wrote:
it is a combination of skill's and equipment.

Very true, but this is a case where the ones who can, don't have to ask. That is, anyone who asks the question, "what rifle should I buy for 400 yard shots?" needs to be told that they have no business taking 400 yard shots. Those who can make shots like that aren't on public forums asking a bunch of strangers what rifle to buy.

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