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Shooting Skills#2

Hmmmmm.......I was wondering if you gentlemen can tell me the difference between a 'once a year hunter'......a true hunter, a 'shooter' or one whom is both a hunter and a shooter?? eye roll eye roll

To clarify somewhat......this question pertains to the "hunting' side and DOES NOT include your benchrest shooter! Field conditions sometimes dictate shooting across a backpack, hat, or cross sticks! Thumbs up

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Shooting Skills#2

I would assume that typically the difference is accuracy.

A Hunter would consider 2" MOA or better groups sufficient for his hunt.

A Shooter typically wants 1" MOA or better.

You should also keep in mind that most "Shooters" are using a bench to shoot from while most hunters would be shooting off the shoulder, prone or one of many other positions more likely to be found in the wild. Long distance shooters will also often use the prone position.

A hunter is focused only on what is necessary in order to take down the target animal, while a shooter is more often focused on tight consistant groups. Though either one can be a ballistics junky .

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Re: Shooting Skills#2
RMulhern wrote:
Hmmmmm.......I was wondering if you gentlemen can tell me the difference between a 'once a year hunter'......a true hunter, a 'shooter' or one whom is both a hunter and a shooter?? eye roll :roll:

To clarify somewhat......this question pertains to the "hunting' side and DOES NOT include your benchrest shooter! Field conditions sometimes dictate shooting across a backpack, hat, or cross sticks! Thumbs up

I think practice defines the hunter. One who it willing to practice off hand and various shooting situations as well and learn his/her game animal projects a better "image" than the sportsperson who shoots once a year at a deer while sitting in the truck over-looking a clear-cut.

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I think that all hunter's eventually must become a shooter. Unfortunately some are very bad at it. At the same time shooter's must also become hunter's or they would never see game. With many shooter's, the better they become the less they use their hunting skill's relying instead on shooting skills. Many hunter's that lack those shooting skills seem to believe that the choice of a particular rifle, cartridge and even scope, will make them a better shooter. Just ain't so. But they are led to believe that. I saw an article by Dick Matcalf some time back on the new CZ long range rifle. In it he claimed the longest shot of his life, 500yds, and gave credit to the rifle, cartridge and scope set up. With out doubt, that play's a big role but, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile. A true shooter can make long shot's on purpose AND knows when condition's are such that the shot is high risk. I think the biggest embarassment for a pure shooter is either a bad shot or a clean miss.

Shooting and hunting are two entirely different things. Where a problem come's in is that the two are so closely associated that they become one and the same. Yet you can hunt any animal and walk away without a shot fired and you can shoot all day long and never fire at a live target. I don't know if your familar with the name Mr Mulhern, but I shot small bore match with Howard Moody while in Europe. He was an absolutely amazing shot that to the best of my knowledge never fired a round at game of any kind in his life! He was a shooter, not a hunter. I have also known, as I'm sure we all have, many people that prepare for hunting by shooting at a cardboard box , "over there". They are hunter's but certainly not shooter's.

I do not think that just practice will ever make anyone a shooter. Shoot all you want, you learn nothing, you don't really improve. The shooter's I do know are very well versed in balistics, handloading and in techniques to make a rifle a more accurate piece of equipment. Most are fairly proficent at range estimation even without a lazer finder out to reasonable range's, they lazer something then actually look at it! In my youth it was a game between my friends and I to estimate ranges. Then we'd step them off to see who came colsest. We's stop the truck in the middle of the raod to estimate and step something off! We were very good. Each of us knew how many step's equaled 100 yds because we stepped it off on a measured range.

Word's like balistic coefficent and sectional density actually take on a meaning to shooter's other than big number's or small. They are familure with the standard projectile. They at least know who Julian Hatcher was. Being a shooter and not knowing these things is like being a cowboy western fan and not knowing who Roy Rodgers was!

Shooting and hunting. Two entirely different thing's associated with one sport. By many, the most potentionally dangerious of the two, taken for granted!

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