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As usual under left wing rule our soldiers can look forwarded to being shot abroad and prosecuted at home. Thrilling. I'm sure old Civetcat is looking forward to watching the firing squads on CNN along with the rest of the America haters.

I'll tell ya what....I just don't understand nor do I comprehend all this hate for the USA lately. It seems to be everywhere and amongst a great many Americans too. I guess few Americans remember exactly what they saw and how they felt the morning of Sept 11, 2001. Nothing has changed with the enemy since, so why should we have any mercy on the enemy now? PC has overtaken the battlefield. Never thought I'd live to see the day!!

There are a lot of things I have never liked about my government, nor do I have much trust of the government, but I have nothing but loyalty and love for my country and our men/women in service.

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You know, it just hit me the other day.

The guy that financed the '93 WTC bombing, planned 9/11, gave the order to behead Daniel Pearl, and was involved in the Bali bombings is getting a civilian trial in New York City.

The SEALs that gave a terrorist a bloody lip are being tried by military tribunal.

Go figure.

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expatriate wrote:
You know, it just hit me the other day.

The guy that financed the '93 WTC bombing, planned 9/11, gave the order to behead Daniel Pearl, and was involved in the Bali bombings is getting a civilian trial in New York City.

The SEALs that gave a terrorist a bloody lip are being tried by military tribunal.

Go figure.

This is a direct consequence of people not understanding what it means to vote for the president. There is so much more to selecting a president than I think most people imagine.

Who is president affects decisions like this, how the EPA and other agencies operate, SCOTUS selections and the overall direction of every aspect of this country.

Those who are appalled by this action, but who voted for Obama only have themselves to blame.

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Those who are appalled by this action, but who voted for Obama only have themselves to blame.

While this is no doubt the truth I believe there's enough blame to go around for both parties. Obama's victory can be laid at the hands of many Republicans who had power for years and squandered the opportunity for greatness. Most people didn't so much vote for Obama as they voted against the established powers of the time. Maybe it's time for one or more new parties to challenge power.
Our country was not built on a two party system, but rather multiple parties who balanced one another's power. Maybe, just maybe, our founders were smarter than we were. Just a thought.

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Bunny Slayer, you are absolutely right. The GOP created the environment where someone like Obama could come in and win.

The GOP and this country must get back to fundementals. Smaller government and balancing the budget.

Any party that spends and spends should be voted out of office.

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Issues of how to treat the enemy have been around since the beginning of warfare.

Say what you want about George W. Bush, but there was never any doubt that he put America first and wanted victory.

But the Republicans don't control how we're waging this war anymore. Do you think this is the first time a captured terrorist accused our soldiers of abuse? It's in their manual to make those accusations and it's nothing new.

This isn't about Republicans. It's about how the war is being waged right now. Across the spectrum, we're waging that war against a very brutal and determined enemy. And we're doing so by sacrificing American blood to protect the enemy. As a Gold Star dad, that thought is sickening. No one wants to think their son died in order to protect a brutal terrorist so he can kill someone else's sons another day.

We're hamstringing our troops and putting them in danger because somebody in the rear thinks there's a polite way to kill people. Here's a classic example:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=121330893

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Expat,
There's no doubt this war is being waged incorrectly and it's the Democrats doing. My post was, while a tiny bit off topic, making the point that while our conservative leadership was pretty good at waging war, they squandered their time in power and we're stuck with the current leadership as a result. I think it's time for a REAL change. A change of choices altogether. Something other than our current choice of Chocolate or Vanilla. Neither seems to be working all that well.

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I can agree with that. Too many McCains in the Republican party.

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expatriate wrote:
....And we're doing so by sacrificing American blood to protect the enemy. As a Gold Star dad, that thought is sickening. No one wants to think their son died in order to protect a brutal terrorist so he can kill someone else's sons another day.

We're hamstringing our troops and putting them in danger because somebody in the rear thinks there's a polite way to kill people. Here's a classic example:

I could not agree with you more ex.
I have alluded to this several times over the past year or so.
How dare this administration give Constitutional Rights to these Terrorist.
Rights that our soldiers, your son, have died, at the very same terrorists hands, while protecting rights that the Terrorist abhor and are hell bent on destroying.

There is no polite way to kill someone and there is no clean way to wage a war.
This ain't Saturday night at the Honky Tonk where you fist fight the early morning away and then go fishing with the same guys that afternoon. These guys are our enemies and they will continue to try and kill us and destroy our country and our way of life. They are succeeding with this spineless President and his self serving cronies running things.

Now that Obama has increased our troop strength in Afghanistan, strikingly similar to the Iraq surge I might add, I wonder where the lefties are? Why are they not screaming for the War Mongering Presidents head?
yeah, thats what I thought.

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Sending a bunch more troops doesn't matter if you won't let them do the job. New ROEs issued by McChrystal in July prohibit shooting at the Taliban if there's a risk of civilian casualties -- even if it means letting the bad guys escape.

So you tell me -- in a war where the enemy wears civilian clothing and hides among them (and even goat herders are armed) how can you EVER engage them? If they attack you, how can you ever fight back? How do you know that some of those guys aren't "civilian"? What if they run to a village?

This isn't a surge in the Iraqi sense, because how can you ever take the offensive? How can you possibly motivate our troops to take any chances whatsoever? All they're doing is making our guys targets, riding around waiting to get ambushed like ducks in a shooting gallery.

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