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Scents and rattleing

I am using the heavy horns rattle bag, in a blind also (the blind is a eastman carbon venture) With this it could be hard to bang against trees inorder to make it sound like deer are getting reared up for a fight. So question is how should i use the heavy horns rattle bag, when does rut usually start in western ky,

Is the buck bomb a good buy,

Also tell me if i put my blind in a good spot. Recently some of our land was just logged, there is a field near the logging where there is a sort of road that leads in just a little before it is covered with tree tops. I placed my stand back against the tree tops where nothing could be laid down really close to it, yet I can still see the field to shoot at, There is a trail that leads to the field and around the field that I can see but there are tree tops to the left and back of me, the field is in front of me, and the trail to the right (a little behind also) There are acorns on the tree tops and tracks all over, and it seems like i saw some really aggressive rubs on the fallen trees. Of course I am so new to hunting on my own that Im not sure the signs that i am looking at are what I think they are, I know the tracks are but rubs and such thats questionable for me, I just need to know if this is a good spot to try rattleing, when to try rattleing in this location, and what scents to use in a location such as this, thanks

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Heavy Horns I believe are a great choice. Hitting the trees isn't necessary, it adds effect but if you can't do it I wouldn't worry about it. Most of my rattling happens up in the tree and they still are drawn to it. Don't know when your rut kicks in around there but I would imagine you are right in it or getting close, good time to be rattling. Early mornings are best followed by hour or 2 before dark. Start off with some grunts and start out mild on the bag and build into an all out war with some grunts here and there. Rattle any where from 1-5 minutes or even longer. I've heard bucks going at it for long stretches. Give it 20 - 30 minutes and start again. Remember the buck needs to be in the right mood to come check it out. So if it doesn't work don't think that you are in a bad spot for rattling, Keep trying on other days until he's in a fiesty mood!
I've never used the buck bomb.
Sounds like you are in a good spot. Make sure the winds in your face as you are watching the field maybe even coming in a bit from the right. Set up a tarsal gland scent about 30 yards to your right and another 30 yds to your left. Be sure they are set far enough in front of you on those sides so you have a clear shot at a deer standing about 20 yds directly downwind of these scents.
Hopefully if a buck comes in from downwind ( which is typical when rattling) he will come across these scents and come straight to them instead of crossing you scent path.
You'll know when you see rubs. The tree bark will be rubbed off and shavings on the ground. Some gouges maybe on the trunk will be seen. Tree size may vary from young sapplings to 4" to 6" trees. Typically bigger bucks rub on these bigger trees, not to say they don't make the ones on sapplings, just normally the smaller bucks dont work the bigger trees.

GOOD LUCK and Hope you have some success!

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lots of good advice from redrider, sounds like your in a good spot, just do your best to cover your scent and be patient, good luck and let us know how you do! Thumbs up

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i changed my location because i never saw anything at that spot, now i am at a funnle spot and rifle season just kicked in today, this funnle spot is a shallow forested area that has a steep bank on one side and a field on the other, the problem i am having is that i haven't seen a single buck there, i've only been in it twice so far but i've seen 2 does, one that must be pickin up my scent cuz she jumps down the bank and runs across behind some cover, i think its the same one i saw yesterday. any way I was wondering if there was any thing i could do to attract more deer to my location, this funnel is about 60 yards wide from bank to field. If any thing comes from the field i can see it also if it comes left or right i can see it. my problem is i cant hear deer so i dont know when they are there unless i spot them! Cry i've not used much scents here and i feel like my rattleing is just scaring them away. I try the can call but not sure how to use it right (meaning how many times to call at one time) same with grunting. I've never heard deer in the wild call each other or actually battle so I dont know how to mock it. Could you tell me what scents to get and how to use them appropriatly and how to get the deer closer, and how to use the calls right?

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o fyi there is a corn field on the other side of the tracks that's been harvested, and a soybean field to the right of my hunting property, should i be hunting closer to one of these areas? i have to run through the corn field to get where i am hunting now. seems like it would be a good spot to hang out by a tree there and wait for sunrise but i'm not totally sure there are any deer going there, but i would think they would seeing as they would eat the left overs right?

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Well In my own humble opinion I am not nor have I ever been sold on those rattlin bags....To me they sound like a bag of sticks...So if I can tell the difference I would imagin a deer could too...Course people swear by them and other swear AT them so I just dunno...Typicly Ky is kind of a hard place to rattle in Bucks for some reason...Dunno many that have been successful at it there even with Natural horns...As for your locations it sounds like you have a nice setup there in that draw...But if you are getting there in the AM you dont want to be walking through thier feeding grounds to get to stand location..Try to find another way for the AM and come in through the field (rubber boots preferred) in the afternoon hunts...That Draw is probably acting as a staging area for them so it SHOULD produce some deer...If the rut is in and you are seeing Doe...STAY STILL...Dont even breath heavy...Dont spook the doe because THEY are they BEST bait on the planet for them old horny bucks. No bottled scents or rattles or calls can reproduce the real things.. Good luck

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I agree - Stay with the does and the bucks will come Thumbs up Good Luck!

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I agree with the does being the best bait, also im right above you in indiana and the rattling bag has worked for me as well as real horns .The key to rattling is buck to doe ratio ,they have to be close to equal .You can kind of think it like people act. If your in a bar full of men and only a few gals theres sure to be a fight.if its about equal not as much problems. Its kind-of a primal nature thing. Rattling has just recently worked for me in the last few years with indiana going to 1 buck a year prog.( more bucks better ratio) Also every buck ive rattled in has came from down wind and the thickest cover from that side .Ive tried lots of commercial scent but have only had real luck with a local deer farm that sells fresh pee kept cold after opening. My best luck has been total no scent at all that means a no scent shower EVERY time i go out and clothes kept scent free .... that also means no pumping gas, no sitting in coffee shop around a bunch of smokers before hunting. A good grunt call like the "buck roar" can help to. Take it or leave it ,I hope this help my nieghboring state buddy "BIGMACK"...............GOOD LUCK AND CLEAN KILLS!

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Yep looks like it works in Indiana Welcome to the site Bigmack Big smile

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