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I've been meaning to post these little concerns in here but keep forgetting...Old age does that I guess...

We have a lot of kids watching these hunting shows and videos as I do and there are a couple of things that I would love to address here.

1 is directly aimed at that show "starring" Tred Barta...Key problem is the shots taken while the show is comming on...If you are looking you see this MORON doing one of the STUPIDEST things in the world and carrying a DEAD DEER out of the woods on his SHOULDERS... Fathers and mothers PLEASE call attention to this MORONIC act to your children and PLEASE express how FOOLISH this act is. Now granted this wouldnt be much of a problem if EVERYONE practiced safe hunting methods and POSITIVLY identified their target and backstop, but as we all know this is not so in todays woods. PLEASE call attention to this act and point it out to your kids!! Say "look at that ignorant moron!! I better not EVER see you doing ANYTHING near something THAT stupid!!" drive it home to them. I have attempted to contact the outdoor channel as well as the Tred Barta contacts and have yet to get a reply or OBVIOUSY any action to remove this stupidity from the credits part of the show.
Now some may see this as just picking on something stupid, but I myself damn near shot a guy doing this and If it wasn't for me being well trained in safe hunting practices a man would have lost his life that day because for one he wasn't wearing ANY orange (neither is Mr. Barta in the video) and he had a BROWN toboggan on and his head was right at the deers' chest. That was one LUCKY man that day!!

Ok another one is one of simple common sense that I saw Just today...NEVER RUN WITH A LOADED WEAPON... Seen a fella ON VIDEO on the outdoor channel tonight on a dead out run trying to get in front of a deer. There was no edit point and he dropped right into a shot so the weapon was obviously chambered and ready for action. Now Im sure again there will be some reading this that will say "lord this guy is a fanatic" and guess what...YOU WILL BE CORRECT...When it comes to safety in the woods, we should ALL be fanatical about it and teach our children to be..Im sure you wouldnt want the death of another on your childs conscience because you neglected to teach them to be safe in the woods..And Im also just as sure you wouldnt want your child killed because someone ELSE didnt teach their child simple steps to being safe!!! These are points that I am making for a reason...The hunting video market is becoming flooded with these kinds of UNSAFE practices and our Kids are watching these SO CALLED "PROFESSIONALS" And thinking that these guys are supposed to be the best they are wishing to copy their every move!! Now I am all for promoting hunting to viewers but we all need to band together and start monitoring these videos and TV shows and call out the stupid stuff to our children and also call attention to the producers of them as well. Hunting takes enough black eyes from the antis without us punching ourselves because of stupidity banghead

Take your Child hunting and fishing and teach them the Outdoors while teaching them the ethical and SAFE way to practice our beloved art.

If anyone has any ideas about how to get in contact with the Tred Barta show please PM me. We do all need to stand together on such issues!! Thumbs up

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I'm just curious...

Aren't both of those concerns addressed in the hunters safter course that you are required to take before you can be issued a hunters license?

Not that it should be any excuse not to reinforce good shooting practices on your kids but as I haven't taken the hunters safety course in years I don't recall what is covered in it and what isn't.

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Yeps they are both addressed in hunters education..But do you rely on others to teach your children? I dont...I do my best to educate them as well as I possibly can. That way I am assured they know right from wrong!! I went over the hunters ed course with my kids myself and made SURE that they retained the knowledge from the course and USED it in the field. Our youth are very impressionable and as I said, if they see a PRO doing this stupid crap then they may feel its ok then! DONT LET THEM THINK THAT...Show them the error and fix the problem!

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If I recall the Tred Barta picture it is an older one (he looks much younger) so hunter orange may not have been required at that time or where he was hunting.

Still, you are right that it is a way to get shot. Most turkey hunting shows I see they fling the bird over their back. I would think that is also dangerous.

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So many of the Outdoor/Hunting/Fishing/ shows just "reek with safety issues" One I remember in particular was a guy shooting a moose with a semi- auto and not reseting the safety after the shot. Nobody will convince me that there wasn't another round chambered and ready to fire.
Some of those so-called professionals could make a cup of coffee nervous with their complete disregard for safety and the gall of Networks to show it.
Some thing I will just never understand Think Think Think

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CVC,
Yes it does look like an older shot but thats not the point here at all...The point is these Shows showing the sheer stupidity and unsafe practices and you are dead on correct on the turkeys...I NEVER see them Orange wrap them or Band them before donning them proudly accross their backs. Now yes I do realize that most of these shows are shot on private preserves and such so they dont really have to worry about safety for themselves. BUT...I try my hardest to follow all safety precautions in any hunting situation.

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Caught a guy carrying an assembled Carry Lite decoy out of a field once with it's belly on his shoulder. From a distance it looked just like a deer walking along the edge of a field DUMB, DUMB, DUMB Brick Wall,) I caught up with him and told him that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, especially when it was in an area not uncommon for poachers to come around.

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I watch Tred Barta from time to time, and I must admit, I like his show. He is so passionate about hunting and preservation of time-honored hunting traditions. For example, he makes his own bow and arrows.

On the other hand, I have seen him take very questionable shots and practice borderline unethical hunting practices. Just recently, I saw him take impossible running shots at caribou through thick cover. The unethical "incident" I am speaking of occured when he was goose hunting with a longbow.

Needless to say, he never got a goose with his bow (flying shots only), or a running caribou.

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Illinois_Dave wrote:
I watch Tred Barta from time to time, and I must admit, I like his show. He is so passionate about hunting and preservation of time-honored hunting traditions. For example, he makes his own bow and arrows.

On the other hand, I have seen him take very questionable shots and practice borderline unethical hunting practices. Just recently, I saw him take impossible running shots at caribou through thick cover. The unethical "incident" I am speaking of occured when he was goose hunting with a longbow.

Needless to say, he never got a goose with his bow (flying shots only), or a running caribou.

He did finally shoot a goose on another episode. I liked his show in the beginning, but his better than thou preaching starts to wear on me. The "Barta way" is not the only way to do things.

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I don't watch the shows and for the most part really don't care for them. They seem staged.

Cam the producers of those shows are not paying attention to the details. Chances are many don't even hunt, they simply produce shows.

About carrying out an animal on your back, a lot depends on where you're at and if anyone else is hunting that land. But I guess even if you think you're all alone, it wouldn't hurt to wrap some orange around your "trophy".

I feel strongly that kids should not be hunting on their own - at all! Even through their teens they need adult supervision and reminders about safety issues. So even if they see this stupid stuff on TV, mom or dad should be there to straighten them out pronto.

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Another thing I saw on one of his shows is when he went after a brownie with his Longbow...Now while I salute this endevor of "bravery" One thing I saw and Dang near died laughing was, when he finaly did connect the guide had to tackle him and damn near SIT on him to keep his stupid rear from chasing after the arrowed animal!!!! Now comeon folks...Aint it about time we end this farce of these SUPPOSED pros (that dont even understand the concept of death if you chase after a fresh hit brown bear) producing these videos that show the novice hunters the wrong way about doing things. Heck a friend just showed me a SICKENING video where Jimmy Houston Is sitting a stand in a 6 acre enclosure "hunting" deer. And then they were showing deer that were drugged for the "hunt" and then , and this is a CAP OF ALL CAPS, They found a mortaly wounded deer...Propped it up with a damn stick...Then had the "hunter" shoot it!!! The point I guess I am trying to make is this, Not only is safety an issue with these videos but also the very fabric of our traditions and values when it comes to this way of life for us TRUE hunters. Now I know not all the video productions arent like this...But an ALARMINGLY high rate of them are! Its time we , as the careholders of our way, do something about it!

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