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Bold predictions from Comrade Panarin.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

I like the map at the end.

1.) Somebody should tell Comrade Panarin, that the California Republic already exists it just doesn't exceed its borders.

2.) China wouldn't want California. All the screaming and whining would make NK look like a model neighbor.

3.) Texas under Mexican influence. Did this guy study history?

4.) Chicago goes to Canada. Wow. Maybe it would become the new capital and our northern buddies can have Obama.

5.) NY and NJ go to the Europe Union, more precisely I figured they would just be a republic of France.

6.) KY and TN with the EU. Nice. I'm sure those folks would meld well with the blue bloods.

7.) Alaska goes to Russia. Apparently they are still sore about selling off that chunk of the empire.

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You'd be surpsised at how skewed another culture's view of the US can be. My experience with Eastern Europeans has been that they're plagued with ignorance about America due to decades of state-run media spinning things wildly. For example, I once had a Pole warn me that America was destined for failure because black people were having more kids than white people, and eventually we'd be overrun. I wanted to beat him senseless until I realized that he already didn't have any sense...all he'd seen about blacks in America had been footage of crime and race riots.

It's not so much hate as it is ignorance -- opinion based on data so badly skewed it's practically fictional. Panarin is popular because he's telling the Russian hard-liners what they want to hear -- that the Soviet way is best and we're falling apart. He's selling political porn to pander to his sponsors -- sort of like Al Gore.

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He is definitely wrong about Alaska being taken over by Russia. No way that's happening considering the Governor Palin can see Russia from her back door. She'd know that they were coming and hunt them Rooskies from her helicopter. Big smile

Ok, I'll be serious now. His map is far-fetched, but the idea of a US civil war is not that crazy in my opinion. Consider the following:

Obama has promised change and prosperity to many groups, especially the poor. What will be the backlash if he doesn't deliver?

Israel is at war in the mideast again. How far will that escalate? What will be the US involvement in a war involving Israel and how will the American people react? Will there be discontent?

The economy is in a downturn - have we hit bottom? How far down will it go? What will be the people's reaction if we reach levels where the jobless rate is very high, people continue to lose their homes and can't afford food?

What happens if Congress, the President and the SCOTUS continue to ignore the US Constitution? How many rights need to be taken from the people before they push back? Congress, the President and the SCOTUS have been eroding the US Constitution long before Bush and if it continues we will live in a country that doesn't resemble the one envisioned by our founders.

Americans need to wake up and get back to basics and to a strict adherence of the Constitution or the crazy Russian may turn out not to be so crazy.

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Expat wrote,

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It's not so much hate as it is ignorance -- opinion based on data so badly skewed it's practically fictional. Panarin is popular because he's telling the Russian hard-liners what they want to hear -- that the Soviet way is best and we're falling apart. He's selling political porn to pander to his sponsors -- sort of like Al Gore.

Are we quite sure he doesn't work for the US media?
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Americans need to wake up and get back to basics and to a strict adherence of the Constitution or the crazy Russian may turn out not to be so crazy

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This is the unfortunate truth. So we know YOU don't work for the US media. They don't report truth.

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BunnySlayer wrote:
Expat wrote,
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It's not so much hate as it is ignorance -- opinion based on data so badly skewed it's practically fictional. Panarin is popular because he's telling the Russian hard-liners what they want to hear -- that the Soviet way is best and we're falling apart. He's selling political porn to pander to his sponsors -- sort of like Al Gore.

Are we quite sure he doesn't work for the US media?
CVC wrote,

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Americans need to wake up and get back to basics and to a strict adherence of the Constitution or the crazy Russian may turn out not to be so crazy

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This is the unfortunate truth. So we know YOU don't work for the US media. They don't report truth.

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Great Link and topic bitmasher.

One thing I might add to CVC analogy, if I may.
Obama has already stated that he will work to establish a "National Police Force" that is as well equipped and as well trained as the Military Forces.
What do you suppose that this "Police Force" will be used for? Hurricane evacuations?

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What do you suppose that this "Police Force" will be used for? Hurricane evacuations?

Gee, let's think a minute. When have Federaly run Police organizations ever been a friend of honest law abiding gun owners? The last time Socialists were given their own Police force they used them to run places like Auschwitz and Krakow. Not a happy thought. Probably not going to happen here so don't think I'm seeing black helicopters or anything but the History is there. It certainly deserves careful watching

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I burst out laughing when I read that article. Laugh

But then I tried to analyze why the Russians would even think this, especially the idea of having the states disintegrate and secede. I agree with Expatriate that a large portion has to do with their state controlled media. They are fed exactly what the government wants them to know and exactly how to perceive the rest of the world.

Remember the Soviet Union was built on forcing other countries/states to be a part of that Union. So turmoil in those "states" spelled trouble for the Soviet Union. I'm sure it was a challenge over the years to keep that Union together. It of course fell apart and all the "states" declared their independence. So Panarin is applying his Soviet theories to the US.

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Another social blind spot apparent in Panarin's analysis is that although the Russians have a social memory of great sacrifice to defend themselves from outside influence, they've never had to fight to assert their independence from an outside influence. So they really underestimate how much Americans value independence and self-determination.

So people like him just can't understand how Americans may bicker and complain, but would never secede from the union in order to swear allegiance to a foreign power. Doing so would be like Russians seceding to become part of Gemany -- ain't gonna happen. No way, no how.

California part of China? Yeah, right -- with the way they're freaking out over Prop 8 and free expression, do you think they're going to embrace Chinese politics? That's about as likely as California adopting Shari'a.

And the idea of Alaska becoming part of Russia again? Regardless of the Lower 48's commitment to Alaska, He obviously doesn't know Alaskans.

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JTapia wrote:
Obama has already stated that he will work to establish a "National Police Force" that is as well equipped and as well trained as the Military Forces.
What do you suppose that this "Police Force" will be used for? Hurricane evacuations?

I hadn't heard this before, but it is a scary thought because you know the police force isn't going to be created to fight corruption in politics.

Sounds like a further attempt to move us from a federal government to a national government.

The current federal government has more power now than they should due to, and sorry if I am a broken record on this, ignoring or misinterpreting the US Constitution.

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CVC wrote:
JTapia wrote:
Obama has already stated that he will work to establish a "National Police Force" that is as well equipped and as well trained as the Military Forces.
What do you suppose that this "Police Force" will be used for? Hurricane evacuations?

I hadn't heard this before, but it is a scary thought because you know the police force isn't going to be created to fight corruption in politics.

Sounds like a further attempt to move us from a federal government to a national government.

The current federal government has more power now than they should due to, and sorry if I am a broken record on this, ignoring or misinterpreting the US Constitution.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Barack Obama, July 2 Colorado Springs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

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