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Ruger All Weather 22 Hornet

Hi

I have a Ruger 77 All Weather 22Hornet that have given me a headache for a couple of months because of precision problem. Is there any one that knows I that’s a general problem and what the problem can be?

/Peter

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What kind of accuracy are you getting and looking for? Have you experimented with different loads and components? Give us some background and we'll see if we can narrow it down.

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Hi again

I was inexact of the problem just to hear if that Ruger model is a problem child. But here is the story. I purchased it new and was full of hope when I headed for the shooting range. What happened was that the first shot hit ~20mm (1 inch) from al the following shots that where placed so tight that there was no paper left between them. Because of the tight series (after the first shot) I thought that this could be a tight shooter. So I searched the weapon for flaws and I found that the barrel was pressing real heard against the stock. So the stock were hollowed out so the barrel were free and the (I don’t know the right word) mechanism where coated with plastic. So back to the range with the result that the shots where spreading al over the boardL. Then I got the advice that Ruger has to heavy barrel for the mechanism to bear and that’s why the barrel was against the stock. Then I tried to place some leather as a support between the barrel and the stock but that didn’t change the precision. I have also tried RWS and Sellier & Berlot fabric ammunition and my own loads in the range of 7.0-9.7gr. of VithaVouri N110 gunpowder behind 50gr. Sako, 50gr. Norma and 45gr. Sako bullets. I don’t know now what the problem can be. Is there any one that has had the same problem?

/Peter

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Hi ChesterGolf

I did some search on the net about Nova Scotia and found that it seems nice. How is the hunting? Is there a rich wildlife? How are the seasons? Tell me more; it is interesting to hear about other peoples hunting and wildlife experiences and possibilities.

If you don’t want to use the forum it is OK to use my email.

/Peter

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Nova Scotia is beautiful in its own way. Outsiders appreciate it much more than we do. I probably think your country is more beautiful than you do. I think we take things for granted when we see them everyday.
This is where I live:
http://www.chesterns.com/

As for wildlife, we have a mixed bag but the populations are not booming. This makes hunting a real challenge. We can start hunting in Sept. for black bears and the hunting season ends this Friday(last day of Feb.) but it is for rabbits. Whitetail deer starts in early Oct(bow) and late Oct(rifle) and goes to first week in Dec. We have a small population of moose in Cape Breton but tags are by draw and it is hard to get one. Waterfowl hunting (Oct-Jan) offers the most opportunities because the pop. is high right now. Fishing is varied as well from freshwater to salt water. With saltwater, there is anything and everything to catch. Freshwater offers several types of trout, atlantic salmon, some types of bass, bullheads, perch, etc. I live on a productive lake and love fishing in my spare time. My sons (4 and 6) have surpassed my love for fishing and I can't wait until next hunting season when I involve my oldest son. :smile:

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Hi

Sounds nice to have a son that walks in ones footsteps. I checked the home page out and it looked beautiful but as you mention we take things for granted and don’t appreciate what we have for what its worth.

Yes I referring to the action being bedded (this is where my weakness in the English language come in. I have problem with technical terms.) A gunsmith that is real good at stock works has done the bedding so I’m not so sure that that is the problem. It would of course be better with a pillar but well-done ordinary bedding usually works just fine. I will check the bedding at the receiver (is that the point of attachment furthest back?). The plastic is not in contact with the barrel so it shouldn’t affect the natural movement of the barrel. I don’t think that the barrel is too heavy but that was just something I had heard from others and wanted to se if that really could be the case.

This is what I’ll do; because the gun was new when I purchased it for a couple of months ago I have warranty left therefore I’ll return it to the shop and then it’s up to them to fix it.

/Peter

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Have you tried switching to one of your other scopes to rule the possibility out that your scope is at fault? Maybe the rings or bases are not tight enough.

Try to buy some factory loads to see if the groups shrink any. I really don't think the ammo is the culprit though. I'm not real familiar with the hornet but isn't it a rimmed cartridge? If so, maybe the headspace is faulty from the start.

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Yes I have tied one of my other scopes with the result of increased precision so it seems to be one of the problems. It didn’t solved everything dough so I need to work on the rifle. Hornet is a rimmed cartridge but it seals of the gases ok.

I will go hunting for a week and I will be back with a report of the result.

/Peter

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How did the hornet work? Any better? I have read a few posts around other sites that said the rugers had some headspace problems with the 22 hornets. It might be something to look in on.

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Hi ChesterGolf

I haven’t solved the problem yet but I’m working on it. Thanks for the tips about the headspace I’ll lock into that. I haven’t had so much time searching for error since I been up in the mountains hunting grouse (Ptarmigan and Willow grouse). The hunting didn’t go so well and resulted in 12 birds during 6 hunting days. On the other hand were the weather nice and the surroundings beautiful.

Have you looked into Meopta scopes? They are good.

/Peter

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I have searched the web for that scope and found out that a few US companies are going to be carrying it in the near future. The scope is a fine looking scope with classic european looks which I like. I'll definately be looking at it in the future but I'll have to buy a new gun to put it on. :smile:
What grain bullets are you using? I have also read several posts that indicate using bullets less than 50 gr. because the barrel twist rate in most would not stablize the heavier bullet.

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