I posted asking for assistance a few days ago with western rifle, had some problems getting it up, thx for fixing that admin. So my buddy is hunting Timothy Lake but I find out he has not shot a deer in several years and it's really just a party. I guided archery elk and waterfowl in Utah when I was younger and was very successful so while I know little about this area I have been around animals my entire life. However, not the black tail. i have been researching and reading all I can about the animal for days and looking at topos and google earth for terrain. From what I can put together, help me plan, the black tail is elusive sounding much like the Rocky mnt elk in the areas I grew up hunting, outside the rut. I found some big deep canyons far from roads, higher mnt lakes and meadows you must hike to but I know nothing about pressure or numbers in this area. My first choice would be hike in and set up base camp at serene lake. My two buddies going (also from Utah) have great skills. One worked for wilderness program for years so his survival skills and back country IQ is great the other is long time army who is actually going after a cat with a handgun? My uncle shot his grizz with a .357 so more power to him, those animals deserve that kind of respect but I will be nearby with my .270 just in case. So any input?