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The right powder for an auto-loader

I want to load 150 grn bullets in my Browning auto loader, but have been hesitant to do so as I get so many conflicting opinions on what to use. I don't want to blow the darn thing up or damage the cycling. I have one of the lwt carbines in 30-06 What would be best for vel. and accuracy ?
Right now I just use WW power points, they will shoot one inch3 shot groups @ 100 but only clock 2820 out of my 20 " bbl I've shot about 30 deer with this combo and they go right down.
But, I'm getting a pile of brass, that could be used and at 15.00 a box at Wally's I can't shoot as much as I like.
What about military suplus ball amo for pratice or will this stuff hurt my rifle ?

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The right powder for an auto-loader

I don't know how the browning cycles. The M1 Garand has always been safe with 4895 powder(thats why theres quite a bit of surplus 4895) and you could use the surplus powder (gibrass.com or patsreloading.com) and flat base bulk 150 softpoints from whomever to load pretty cheap. I'd be about 95% sure that this would be the safe way to go, I suspect both gas systems are similar and with the M1 if you use the wrong powder you can bend the op rod.

If you bought true LC ball ammo you may well be safe. But the accuracy is poor due to cheap bullets. Thats why I suggest reloading with those other bullets. Flat based soft points would be much more consistently accurate. And bought in bulk they are fairly cheap.

Beware other surplus ammo-- its made overseas and can be just fine OR be v very dangerous. Also Federal makes 150 FMJ ball ammo for the 06 for what is called Garand matches. That ammo would be safe, some federal brass, especially in 223 Rem is not worth or safe to reload again though. So I'd stick to reloading what you have.

Good luck, Jeff

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The right powder for an auto-loader

Reloading for an autoloader is really no different than reloading for any other firearm. No safe load is going to blow up your gun, or damage the action. Just as with any other load, start out with less powder and work up to what feels comfortable to you. The one thing about an autoloader is that feeding problems are yet another indication, that you might sometimes get, that indicates you need to back the load down some.

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Don that is NOT the case at all with some semi autos. You deal with a pressure curve. The guns timing and gas port size are designed within certain parameters. If you go outside of those( IE a powder the designers were not thinking of ) you stand a chance of severely damaging or ruining parts in a semi auto.

Depending, of course, on how its built to cycle. Example again the M1 Garand. Not built to stand 190s or 200s. And used with to fast of a burning powder(IIRC) the pressure curve can change such that you can ruin the operating rod.

In essence a totally safe load in a bolt gun can ruin a semi auto. And not due to excessive pressure, but pressure at the wrong times and on a wrong curve.

Not a flame at all, but a bit of further info. They are not all the same.

Jeff

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The right powder for an auto-loader

Country Boy,
I have several Browning BAR rifles and handload for them all.Aside from having to shoot a lot slower to final group sizes for accuracy,function has never been a problem with reloads.All rifles of mine will shoot prefered loads into one inch or less,three shot groups not five.
I full length resize,standard RCBS dies and load up to maximum by Nosler #5 for all calibers.My smaller caliber BARS tend to prefer heavier bullets whereas the 30 cals shoot just about anything I have tried.
Recommend trying Nosler partitions any caliber and weight.My personal loads for my BAR rifles are

270 win -130 gr partition RL-22
30-06 - 180 gr partition IMR 4350
308 - 150 gr partition Hodgdon Varget

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Location: Rivers,Manitoba,Canada
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The right powder for an auto-loader

I use Varget with 150 gr.Hornady's in my .308 BAR with no problems.

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