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Rifle Scopes

Well here we go again. I am currently comparing a few upper middle of the road rifle scopes. I only hold them up to my eye and look out my kitchen window at different times of the day...up until dark. I compared the following scopes today with 5 inches of fresh snow on the ground. 1) Minox ZA5 3-15x42 2)Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44 3)Burris Signature 4-16x44 4) Pentax Lightseeker 4-16x44. The Pentax I recently purchased off ebay, the others I bought new. Lets start with 4th place....Minox. Very clear and bright, good eye relief, great fit and finish, the lightest of the group, smallest sight picture and the most eye box critical. The remaining 3 are so very close as far as glass, brightness, clarity, eye relief, I am a big time Burris/Pentax fan so I rate these two the same. The Zeiss is right there with them but the one area was weaker on the Zeiss...the riticle gets too thin in the center, making it harder to see in low light. The Zeiss reticle faded out first among these scopes as the light faded away. Not a disqualifier at all as the Zeiss is awesome. The hit on the Burris/Pentax units is weight...quite heavy indeed. But oh what a sweet sight picture and very crisp and bright. I read a lot of customer reviews as well as pro reviews. This led me to try the Minox. I also try to keep the price within reason for the average income sportsman. I can't afford the high end Europe scopes and don't know anyone who buys them. I'm sure the $2-3000 scopes are nice...but my money says the $500 units I'm familiar with will do everything they do and allow us to buy a premium rife to mount it on. Bottom line...you can spend in the $500 range and never need to upgrade or second guess your purchase because these scopes won't let you down, and the warranties are very good.

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This is intresting. Every

This is intresting. Every time scopes are recommended, it mostly the most expensive that are recommended. Usually it's said how great this glass is or that glass, How much better you can see. I think even a good scope, looked on as trash by elitest, will give more light gathering ability than necessary at closing hour. Your little test seem's to bear that out. The Minox was worst but not at all objectical. The thing about scope's for me is how well they seem to be built, will they last. I've got two Redfields a bit over 40 yrs old that still work very well. My Bushnell Banner is over 20 yrs and still doing it's job right up to the close of shooting hrs. I have a couple Nikons and a Leupold Redfield. The Nikons are about 10 yrs old and thr Leupold Redfield about 5 yrs old.

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scope comparisons

rgbwmb wrote:
Well here we go again. I am currently comparing a few upper middle of the road rifle scopes. I only hold them up to my eye and look out my kitchen window at different times of the day...up until dark. I compared the following scopes today with 5 inches of fresh snow on the ground. 1) Minox ZA5 3-15x42 2)Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44 3)Burris Signature 4-16x44 4) Pentax Lightseeker 4-16x44. The Pentax I recently purchased off ebay, the others I bought new. Lets start with 4th place....Minox. Very clear and bright, good eye relief, great fit and finish, the lightest of the group, smallest sight picture and the most eye box critical. The remaining 3 are so very close as far as glass, brightness, clarity, eye relief, I am a big time Burris/Pentax fan so I rate these two the same. The Zeiss is right there with them but the one area was weaker on the Zeiss...the riticle gets too thin in the center, making it harder to see in low light. The Zeiss reticle faded out first among these scopes as the light faded away. Not a disqualifier at all as the Zeiss is awesome. The hit on the Burris/Pentax units is weight...quite heavy indeed. But oh what a sweet sight picture and very crisp and bright. I read a lot of customer reviews as well as pro reviews. This led me to try the Minox. I also try to keep the price within reason for the average income sportsman. I can't afford the high end Europe scopes and don't know anyone who buys them. I'm sure the $2-3000 scopes are nice...but my money says the $500 units I'm familiar with will do everything they do and allow us to buy a premium rife to mount it on. Bottom line...you can spend in the $500 range and never need to upgrade or second guess your purchase because these scopes won't let you down, and the warranties are very good.
Thanks for posting. I always enjoy reading scope comparisons and have done several myself. I own a good number of scopes, well over 50 at this time, and have found some interesting results in comparisons I've done myself. I own scopes made by Burris, Bushnell, Leupold, Minox, Nikon, Pentax, Redfield, Zeiss and Weaver along with a couple other oddballs. I have done a good bit of hog hunting and black bear hunting in the last 5 years or so and have begun to add a special "check" in all my low light scope comparisons; a dark target to check for how well the crosshairs show against it in very low light. I have found the three Zeiss Conquests I own to always give the best low light performance, but I have also come to realize that when it comes to low light and a dark target, the reticle can mean just as much as the relative brightness a scope has. Because of this fact, I have become a huge fan of Heavy Duplex reticles, #4 type reticles and lately also illuminated reticles. A couple of my last new scope purchases were for Leupold's new VX-R series models, which have a couple different types of illumninated reticles. Although I still see the Zeiss scopes I own as somewhat brighter at last light, these VX-Rs, with their special reticles are far more visible at the lowest levels of light. For someone wanting a quality scope for deer hunting this might not be quite so important as a hunter hunting hogs, especially where hog hunting might have no "end" time, so they can be hunted 24hrs a day. I am not about to sell my Zeiss scopes, but will look first to the VX-R or similar type of scope for rifles I plan on using for bear & boars. They really are that much better for certain specific uses.

A couple pics of my new VX-Rs. For some reason the 2nd picture did not post properly, but if you click on it, it will come up.

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