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Location: Bessemer, Alabama
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I am new here and just wanted to get yaul's opinion on something if you don't mind. whats the major differemces between the rem. 7mm ultra mag, the 7mm mag and the 7mm ultra short mag? I mostly hunt whitetail deer in AL. and i am going to buy a new rifle and have a few questions about the caliber i want, i was also considering a 30 06. Any help would be appreciated

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Location: Alabama
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First Welcome! I'm from just east of you near Oxford/Anniston.

I would go with the 30-06. You might consider a .270 which is what I hunt with.

I recently bought a 7mm Rem Magnum A-Bolt. Being used to the recoil of the .270. I was sure as soon as I pulled the trigger I heard the distinct sound of a mule as it was kicking me in the shoulder. HAHA.

The only reason I bought the 7mm was the price was really low and some day I can use it for elk or moose.

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The key difference between the 7mm Rem Mag and the 7mm Ultra Mag is case size. The Ultra Mag shoots about 100 to 150 fps faster with factory loads, but for ammo, you're going to pay extra, and it also kicks harder for the relatively mundane ballistic advantages. The 7mm Short Ultra performs somewhat like the standard-length 7mm Rem Mag, however as bullet weight increases, the standard-length version has the edge.

Other choices in this category include the 7mm-08 and the 280 Remington, which are both excellent for deer-sized game, and the 280 is plenty enough gun for elk under most circumstances. The 30-06 is a very sensible choice for deer hunting, with a flat enough trajectory for most long-range shooting. Unless your shots are going to be in the 300-yard range, I'd say forget about the 7mm Mags and go with a 7mm-08, 280, or 30-06.

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Location: Utah
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The Captain summed things up pretty well.

I suggest you keep things simple and go with a 30-06 or 270 Win. The game you hunt will never know the difference and your pocketbook will appreciate the savings (your shoulder too).

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Location: Arizona
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I'm not positive without doing a little research, but I think the Ultra Short was designed to get magnum performance in a short action rifle; if that was your preference.
I'm pretty much with the other guys, using a 30-06 and 7mm-08 myself.

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I'm not positive without doing a little research, but I think the Ultra Short was designed to get magnum performance in a short action rifle; if that was your preference.
I'm pretty much with the other guys, using a 30-06 and 7mm-08 myself.

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This is just my opinion on this whole ultra mag thing. I really believe that it's a marketing ploy to increase gun sales.

Problem is none offer much advantage over many existing cartridges. Then the short program seem's to be some perception that a short action offers some cyclic rate advantage, whict is true in theory but in practice offer's little or no advantage.

What has happened is that gun wrutter's got something new to wright about, gun nut's got something new to fool with and people like yourself get thrown a curve.

You may at sometime enjoy one of those wiz-kids but for now, the Captian said it all.

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Location: Bessemer, Alabama
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thanks for the advice, someone said they would prefer a .270, which is what i shoot now, i've had a problem with shooting deer with good shots and and never getting any blood which makes tracking a pain as yaul all know. I think i'm going to go back to core locks and throw that box of federals away. Me and a friend of mine were talking and he made the point that i didn't really have a problem until i switched amo. We'll see i guess

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Location: Utah
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Welcome to the Forum!

What weight and type of bullet were you using in your 270 Win? Where did the bullets strike the deer?

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Don Fischer sums it all up perfectly.
Although I reload my 270 ammo, I could comfortly hunt with any Winchester,Remington or Federal cartridge.
Don't blame the ammo for a miss or a poorly placed shot. You're really just fooling yourself.

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A lot of times, using a bullet with too high of a sectional density will give you a narrow wound channel, and less blood. Another potential cause is a high amount of fat on the deer, I've actually seen how this interferes with the bleeding, and gives you pretty much no blood trail.

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