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Heh...Heh... yeah I always thought that Finkelstein was a gear waiting to come off his spindle...

Actually, I was referring to another type of steno, what you guys have said above referrers to what I think is "psychological" stenography. Meaning how a video is composed it can be interlaced with some other image for however brief that it registers at the subconscious but not conscious level.

The program I was talking about were acutal computer code, for placing a message within the byte ordering of a digital image. For example a JPEG image because it is compressed usually has some "room" to put in extra info (just bits as in 1's and 0's) without changing the visual appearance. The extra info is inserted in a manner that is repeatable and extractable. So by first encrypting a message like "Meet me at the park", then running the steno program on the encrypted text plus the carrier image you get a steno laced image. It looks the same as before but the file size is a bit larger.

One might say well "that's lame", if your crypto is good enough, why worry about how you pass it. The idea behind the steno is to hide that you might be trying to pass secret info. If some intellegence agency intercepts an openly ciphered message, chances are good something is up and draws attention, if however if they just capture pictures of a wedding festival, it might get overlooked...

It is this type of trickery that I assume makes the NSA publicly complain (like they did before and after 9/11) that they have info overload.

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This is a bit off topic, but the other day the IRS released their annual report on the previous years taxation.

In 2001 the top 1% income bracket made just over 20% of all U.S. income and paid just over 36% of all income taxes.

Maybe you all are aware of this, but I always find it interesting, so thought I would post....

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Ted can own all the land he wants to, but he can't take it with him, and I probably enjoy my garden more that he enjoys all of his land, I wonder if he has ever actually walked on the land or does he stick to the blacktop.
I don't hold it against anyone that pays a guide, it's just not my way to hunt.
I spend about 1500. deep sea fishing and for launching my boat on fresh water lakes during the summer, but it is spent in twenty and fifty dollar amounts, If I handed someone 3 grand at one time, it had better be for roof repair or a new septic other wise I may become the hunted.

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Rich mans sport, let me see,
shotgun 400.00
shells 12.00
clothes 150.00
permits 20.00
license 16.00
calls 100.00
gas/veh 50.00
total 748.00
Cost of a butterball at the food store 20.00
yeap it is a rich mans sport.

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Rifle/shotgun = $400
License = $20
Clothing and "esential gear" = $300

Having the freedom to own the gun, buy the license and hunt the land for game for you table = Priceless.

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good one keepitsimple, leaving now to go to the cabin and land to hunt deer, oh I forgot about that cost, rough hunters cabin and land - $150,000.00. But that is not a fair cost estimate I guess because there is always public land, and a camper.

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Face it, everyone would like to have a lot of money so they can buy everything and anything they want. Does Ted Turner deserve to own Thousands upon Thousands of acres of prime land? Does one man deserve to be able to afford 3 shotguns at one time? I don't know what theysacrificed in order to acheive this high level of "sucess". I for one value my family and as such do not voluntarily give up my time with them so I can pursue other business deals. Furthermore I value my integrity, I will not compromise my morals to "get more". I would love to own a "rough hunters cabin" and land. Perhaps one day I will, but I will not waste my time being jealous. I love my 20 year old rifle, its like a comfortable pair of jeans, an inanimate old friend. My shotgun is a Browning pump, wouldn't trade it for the world. Every scratch tells a story and one day I hope one of my children will value it as much as I value their grandfathers old model 94. My advice to those that feel compelled to long for the other side of the fence, go across. Me I prefer to fully explore this side, it may not be the best, but it's good enough for me.

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Keepitsimple, your on the mark friend, family is number one, hunting is fun and when it becomes a "who has more toys game" you have lost the direction . I worked my whole life for that rough hunters cabin, it was a goal that I had when young and pursued with all my heart. It was not bragging it was just conversation. So I hope no offence was taken, and by the way I still hunt the public lands cause there close.

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Chechatonga - It's always been a dream of mine to own my getaway. One day when the kids are older and maybe done with school. In the meantime it's refreshing to know that some people still get theirs the old fashioned way...they earn it.

Take Care and Merry X-Mas

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Hi - A couple of thoughts. My perspective is from that of a booking agent, but I am not posting to promote myself, or my business. I represent Outfitters from all over N America, and there are some hunts out there that are really pretty affordable. Outfitters are getting more and more competitive. All of my hunts are $750-5000. Granted, figure in air fare, tips, etc., they can creep up, but still - a good tax refund can get you a decent hunt. The "Colorado folks hate Texans" syndrome - it's funny, but I have Texans going to Newfoundland, New Brunswickers going to Texas, Minnesotans going to Manitoba - I think it all evens out in the end. Anyway, my 2 cents, and a very enjoyable thread..

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