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Report from Utah

hey guys just wanted to pop in and give an update.  im out in utah near salt lake and hunting season is in now and i soooo wish i had a permit and gun.  in case anyone is wondering non res tags for mule and elk are pretty decent.  moose and ram are pretty steap.  after talking to a local today they told me all about the different hunts here.  i must say, temp is in the thirtys with light coat of snow on ground and still falling.  i want to be stalking through the mountians so bad In love

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The tags are decently priced,

The tags are decently priced, but are there any OTC tags available???

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I have some family (wifes

I have some family (wifes side) in utah. i should make a hunting trip oops i mean a visiting trip down there some fall.

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All of Utah's deer tags are

All of Utah's deer tags are through the draw system unless you find a landowner that has tags that he sells witch can get quite expensive.  Usually there are Northern tags left over after the draw but that is because it is primarly private land with no access to the hunting country. 

Right now Utah's DOW is going through ideas on what to do with the smaller deer herds that they are experiencing and are looking at 3 different proposals to try and get the herd back up to where they believe that it belongs.  I hunted there this year during the muzzleloader hunt and while I had no problems finding bucks it was a problem getting close to the one that I wanted to shoot and nver pulled the trigger on one.  I was also there for 6 days of the spike bull hunt and saw less than 20 deer on the Monroe unit, but then that uint is getting set up for a special desigination such as no hunting deer on it for 2 or 3 years.       

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Even here in Oregon, we're facing shrinking deer herds, ODFW has made a small effort to bring back the deer numbers with tactics of cutting tag numbers and making some of the archery otc tag a draw tag now. I personaly dont see it working and wouldnt be opposed to a more aggressive plan like shutting down units to hunting for a couple years at a time and then rotate to other units. i know most people would complain but if it meant better hunting in future i for one wouldnt fight it. the area i hunt in eastern oregon has gone down hill in the past 10 yrs. i used to see and have chances at multiple nice bucks now you might get on 1-2 decent bucks in a 10 day hunt. and there are a lot more small forkies and 1-2 yr old deer. I just know something needs to be done in a lot of areas out west.

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I agree it might take drastic

I agree it might take drastic measures to increase the deer numbers. They can either cut tags in those units or close those units all together. The problem with closing the units is the loss of revenue.
Where will they make up the revenue from a decrease in the number of hunters? Will they increase the cost of tags in the units that are open? Or will they add tags to other units that have healthy deer herds? Seems to me that is a difficult problem to find a solution for with hunter numbers already down because of this economy.

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Its amazing how the talk of

Its amazing how the talk of the decrease in deer population there.  While driving to Idaho I saw more Mule deer than I could count.  Granted I didn't see any bucks but still with that many does they have to be breading.  I know after talking to some people there they talked about how they noticed that the size of deer taken were decreasing.  With all the open land I saw I can't imagine that there aren't people illegaly hunting and hurting the mature buck population.  I do agree if the population is decreasing that measures need to be taken to help rebuild.  I do not think that strictly decreasing the number of tags and increasing the cost will be effective alone.  That will only punish honest hunters as well as encourage more hunters to resort to dishoest hunting due to not getting tags or not being able to afford the tags.  Im not sure what the wildlife officers are doing but seems that they should try and target more of the dishonest poaching and enforce strict punishment for those caught.  Im sure that they are taking action  I just dont think that hunters that try to do the right things should be punished (cost wise) for those that are manipulating the area.

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Thanks for the report

Thanks for the report although I am sad to see that it is not a very good one. Atleast in the way of deer population declines. Closing whole units might help recover those populations quicker but that could really hurt revenues really fast. Sounds like they really need to come up with a definitive cause and then pursue a solution vigorously. Here's to rebounding deer populations in the near future!

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