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Red Setter's

Last weekend I judged a walking shooting dog stake for an Irish Club in Washington. They actually have Red Setter's but call themselves "Irish Field trial Club". First time I have ever seen these dogs. Heard about them for years!

Well they are magnificent dog's. They run really well, up to 400-500 yds, or they stay close 100-200 yds. Depends on what the owner wants. They do not have that long show dog hail or that level show dog tail. And seem's that about as big as they get is about 45# for female and 55# for males. After the trial and watching these dogs, I decided I'm gonna have one. Be early this fall but I'am getting one.

Two top photo's will be the mom and bottom photo the dad!

 

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Beautifull dogs.  Forgive me

Beautifull dogs.  Forgive me ignorenve, but are they related to the Irish setters?

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What I heard.

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Beautifull dogs.  Forgive me ignorenve, but are they related to the Irish setters?

I can only tell you what I heard. They were developed back around 1950 because the show Irish Setter's were getting worthless as field dogs. So someone, forget his name, crossed an Irish with an English and got what we call a red and white. From there the red was developed and for awhile AKC even recognized them as Irish Setter's. Then the National Club complained to AKC and wanted registrations pulled on most of them, something to do with certain blood. Rumor has it that the problem with the Red Setter being called an Irish Setter, that it pretty much eliminated the dual champion. The show type could do nothing competative in the field with the Red Setter and the Red never got shown. It does suprise me now that we don't see a lot more around. From what I was told, they don't come along as slow as the English, take training better and don't run to the extreame's some english do. They are fast and stylish and very biddable. Just heard from Craig last night, I'm number 5 on the list for pup's!

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Used to judge some red

Used to judge some red setters in Wis back in the early 90's, mostly American Field trials. Most of the dogs I saw were bred by a guy named Stan Zdowski (spelling) were a pleasure to watch

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Stan Zdowski

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Used to judge some red setters in Wis back in the early 90's, mostly American Field trials. Most of the dogs I saw were bred by a guy named Stan Zdowski (spelling) were a pleasure to watch

 

I think Stan Zdowski is the name I heard mentioned. Back around 1950? The trial I did was an Amer Fld trial. I was impressed with the other judge, he didn't not go out looking for mistakes to justify picking up a dog. I judged a bunch of AKC in the past and a lot of the judges did just that.

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red setters

Zdanowitz or something like that was the name of the guy from Wis that had some great Red Setters. Have a few American Field magazines from the 80's I could check for sure. If I remember correctly guy named Steve Spencer had a few good ones from Stan's line. I was running field Gordons at the time (not Springset) but was impressed with what I saw from the reds.

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Saw a fabulious Gordon this past wek end at a trial. belongs to Janet Grunbox of Baingridge, Wash.

After the trial we put her on a bird just to take a photo.

This next photo really caught my eye at her break away. I've never seen a gordon this nice. Matter of fact, she's awful nice for any dog! Ten years old and still going strong!

 

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Awesome pics

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