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Location: san diego
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this is my first stop:
kitchen creek road in cleveland national forest.
here's a topographical map of the area. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=san+di...944,0.02502&t=h
this image was taken west of the road after leaving the laguna camp ground where hunting is 100% perfectly legal. (the laguna camp area does not allow shooting).


some shells:

food supply:acorns for pigs and whatever may be in the area:

wide shot of the area from the trail:

another shot from the trail:

my next stop was "pine creek road":
here's a map of the area. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=san+di...294,0.02502&t=h

here's some photos were taken west fo the dirt road the runs north and south parallel to pine creek road. the area is legal for hunting, but i found a lot of horse hoof prints, so i am apprehensive about shooting in the area if the are folks on horseback out in the bush.
here's a shot from the dirt road west of pinecreek road.

here's the creek, good thing to find a water supply in the area.

here's a nice shot about 1/4 mile west of the road looking back towards the dirt road.

i would rate today a failure. Pinecreek was interesting and easy to get to. I have a car, not a truck so i didnt explore up the dirt road more than a mile on foot. although i found tons of tracks all over pinecreek road, rabbit and deer and coyote especially near the creek. the area is steep and difficult to hike. the brush isn't too bad. there are some clear "mini meadow" areas. I did find some shotgun shells but the place kinda seems to be a recreational area. hikers, mountain bikers and horseback riders.
cleveland national forest is the same. mountainous terrain some mini-meadows, some fire damage too. i found a few deer and coyote tracks but the area is thick and overgrown and difficult to hunt visually. i spent about 9 hours looking around hiking and driving. I only saw a few doves. other than that i didnt see a single living creature worth shooting. this is my 12th expedition in san diego, riverside and san bernardino county. All of which were failures. but i will keep trying. one thing's for sure I was going to buy a new rifle, now it looks like it'll just be a waste of money. sadly

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Location: Pennsylvania
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That is some real nice terrain! If the people presure is too heavy maybe you could invest some of that time you are spending on scouting, doing some driving. I certainly couldn't help you in locating a good area even from your topo maps (although I would spend ALL my scouting time in the water drainages) because that looks nothing like any of the areas I am used to hunting but I did want to tell you the jist of a statement that I heard that makes sense to me and seems to fit your situation.
What would you rather do? Travel for a day to hunt an area that has lots of game for 2 days and spend another day getting back or, travel an hour to hunt for 4 days in a place that has no game or need to be very lucky to get something.
The wording on that is kind of cumbersum but I think the point of it is still there eye roll

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Location: san diego
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i agree totally, unfortunately I am a full time student and I work. It's rare that I will get a saturday or sunday off without having to work or having to do homework or study. Today for example, I was at the location about an hour away from my house, at 8:00AM But I wanted to be back by 5:00 because I have some homework i have to finish up. I usually only have ONE day for hunting unless school's out for summer, spring or christmas break. I usually am busy 7 days a week. work or school. sucks!

Even if I don't get a kill, at least i got out in the fresh air and held a rifle in my hands. The only time I will be able to hunt is spring break and I have to figure out a good location and stay in a motel or a cabin for the weekend. I can actually hunt only once or twice a year. just too damn busy. (

do you live near san diego? could you be so kind to guide me away from bad areas at least. I'm thinking about going north into riverside county, and another good source i hear for varmints is I-8 East near el-centro??????

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Location: Pennsylvania
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I can't blame you for getting out every chance you get! Looks like a great place to spend some "think" time.
I'm about as far from San Diego as you could get and still be in the lower 48......I'm about an hour from NY city! BUT......we have excelent hunting, even on the public lands.....Lots of game.

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Location: Alabama
Joined: 08/25/2003
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I feel your pain savage!! I'm a full time student to classes two days a week, clinicals, two more, and work the rest of the time.

Looks like some pretty country out there! Good Luck Huntin'

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Location: san diego
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the area is really nice. the weather is like this almost year round. 50 in the winter and 80 in the summer. that's the extremes. we had a lot of rain last year so the game should be all over. It sure does look like hunting heaven. should be deer and coyote all over. but it's pretty desolate.
i remember being just 40 minutes north of hear and hunting rabbit and ground squirrel on a rancher's property and taking about 30 or so ground squirrels and a few cottontail. the cottontail was brought to the town butcher and served up for dinner for the rancher. for a little "thank you" but sadly he passed away. now i have no where to hunt. to be honest i kinda took all the varmints on his property anyways, lol
i swept the area with flyers for free pest control about 6 months ago. but got NO replies. I'm going to try again soon, see if someone bites. i havent killed a varmint in a year!
i feel like hitting my head against the wall
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Predator control is a great way to get access to private land. Problem is getting in that first one. Once you get in there, the rest come easy if you do a good job.
Heres what I did.....Got buisness cards printed up with my name, phone number and the tittle read Trapper/Furharvester and I asked a guy that my friend bought some ducks off of, if he could pass them out down at the farmers market. Most of the farmers at this market raise livestock for food and don't appreciate the fox/coyotes helping themselves to part of thier paycheck.
I got one call and went to the farm, trapped 21 fox and 19 coons from there. I now have more farmers asking me to trap the fox on thier land too and I said yes. At this point I have more land than I knnow what to do with.

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Not a bad Idea!!

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